Talk:Rupert Carington, 7th Baron Carrington

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Surname[edit]

Is the surname Carrington or Carington? As a life peer his father was Lord Carrington. With the abolition of voting rights in the Lords for hereditary peers in 1971(?) he was made a life peer, and accordingly changed his name to the more ancestral form of Carington. Since life peerages cannot be inherited, I presume his son retains the title he had at birth as the son of a hereditary Lord, i.e., Baron. This article, however, uses both forms: Carrington in the title (in my view correct), and Carington for Rupert's personal surname. Correct, perhaps, but confusing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carusus (talk • contribs) 10:43, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that has been causing considerable confusion over the years. The surname is spelled Carington, with single r, but the title is spelled Carrington, with 2 r's. The exception is the second baron, Robert Carrington, 2nd Baron Carrington (whose birth name was Smith, of the Smith banking family), who actually spelled both his surname and the title with 2 r's, but his sons changed that in 1880. The eldest son, the third baron, Charles Wynn-Carington, 1st Marquess of Lincolnshire (who was created an earl in 1905 and a marquess in 1912), later also added Wynn to the last name of himself and his family, but the male line of that family became extinct after his death, since his only son had been killed in WWI. See these articles, and the article Baron Carrington, for further info.

Regards, HandsomeFella (talk) 11:21, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Potential succession as Lord Great Chamberlain[edit]

Due to the accession of a new monarch, the Lord Great Chamberlain's office is vacant and a new one will be appointed by the King. The rules around who the new one will be are complicated, but as it is now the turn of the Carrington family to nominate a Lord Great Chamberlain, per the Wiki on the Lord Great Chamberlain's page, the 7th Baron is considered a possibility.

If he does become Lord Great Chamberlain, he'll be in the unusual position of being both elected and appointed to the Lords at the same time - he is currently elected to the House of Lords as a hereditary peer, but the Lord Great Chamberlain is an office of state and is automatically appointed to the House of Lords, where they sit by right. 114.78.123.235 (talk) 10:02, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]