Talk:Rokkor

Nikkor as copycat of Rokkor

There are now even totally unrelated pseudo-brands named Rokunar and Rokinon (similar sounding mixups of various respected photographic brands like Rokkor, Riconar (by Ricoh), Rikenon (by Ricoh), Nikkor (by Nikon), Fujinon (by Fujifilm), etc.) trying to capitalize on the power of Minolta's brand.

...but Nikkor brand existed from 1932, so I have speedily deleted this list.Nankai (talk) 07:37, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi Nankai, Nikkor, of course, is not a "copycat". I'm astonished about how you read that sentence, because it states just the opposite: It clearly marks Rokunar and Rokinon as "pseudo-brands", and establishes that Rokkor, Riconar, Rikenon, Nikkor and Fujinon are all genuine and traditional brand names, from which the first two (Rokunar and Rokinon) were "cheaply" derived in recent years. The names aren't ordered for optical quality (otherwise I would have listed Nikkor just after Rokkor), or market penetration (then I would have listed Nikkor first), or age - they are simply ordered for similar sound, that's why Riconar and Rikenon come before Nikkor.

Feel free to improve the wording if you find a better way to describe this, but I think the information "as is" is important enough to be included, that's why I restored the old sentence.

--Matthiaspaul (talk) 22:03, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Lens Brand Naming needs citation

This seems highly speculative and possibly violates NPV (sounds like Rokkor fan-boi talking points):

The brand was so well respected among photographers that some customers asked for "Rokkor cameras"[1] and questioned the origin of the lenses when the first Minolta lenses without the Rokkor designation hit the market between 1977 and 1980.[1] Many continued to call at least the manual-focus Minolta SR-mount lenses "Rokkors" long after the name was dropped. Even decades later, when Sony took over the A-mount auto-focus SLR system from Konica Minolta in 2006, for which no Rokkor lenses were ever produced, there were (unsuccessful) petitions to reintroduce the old Rokkor brand. There are now even totally unrelated pseudo-brands named Rokunar and Rokinon (similar sounding mixups of various respected photographic brands like Rokkor, Riconar (by Ricoh), Rikenon (by Ricoh), Nikkor (by Nikon), Fujinon (by Fujifilm), etc.) trying to capitalize on the power of Minolta's brand.

First off, for this to be plausible the Rokkor brand would have to have predated all these other brands, and I don't think it did.

Secondly (I do not speak Japanese, so maybe I am missing something here) but how does the brand name "Fujinon" try to capitalize on "Rokkor" - these words dont' seem to sound at all alike, and Fujinon seems obviously connected to Fujifilm, the parent company, not related to "Rokkor".

If there isn't some source for this maybe it should be removed, or at least cleaned up to be more realistic.

ZeroXero (talk) 00:47, 2 March 2022 (UTC)