Talk:Rising Pune Supergiant/Archive 1

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hello Compassionate727, for which section wiki needs source. -- Nivas88 (talk) 12:41, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

No specific section. The article as a whole needs more sources to establish that the team is notable. -©2016 Compassionate727(Talk)(Contributions) 16:09, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2017

In the info box there is no need of Former Captain. Please remove that. 117.249.222.196 (talk) 17:37, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Done — Train2104 (t • c) 18:22, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 26 March 2017

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The result of the move request was: Moved.Unanimous consensus.(non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric 08:20, 6 April 2017 (UTC)


Rising Pune Supergiants → Rising Pune Supergiant – The franchise name has changed, http://risingpunesupergiant.in/ , http://www.iplt20.com/teams/rising-pune-supergiant. 49.15.88.185 (talk) 15:01, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

  • support. per the all source above and other reliable news. 27.97.214.115 (talk) 05:53, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

--relisting due to lack of consensus Kostas20142 (talk) 12:12, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

  • NeutralSupport Need to wait to see how the media refer to the team? The links above are WP:PRIMARY, need some secondary sources to show that WP:COMMONNAME has changed. The support above should list some reliable news rather than just staying it exists Spike 'em (talk) 19:27, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
Agree with Spike. Currently the cricinfo scorecard for their opening match shows it as Supergiant. Lugnuts Precious bodily fluids 08:10, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
This is a primary source. Andrewa (talk) 02:25, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Some sources, all referring to the singular, as the editors proposing don't seem to be bothered. I don't know what are RS for India, but both the Times of India & The Hindu are mass circulation papers
cricinfo squad page
cricinfo article
TImes of India article
The Hindu article
New name seems to be in common use, so changing my vote Spike 'em (talk) 09:38, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The official name is irrelevant. Andrewa (talk) 02:13, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
    • Support (change of vote) deferring to the opinion that sources show that the new name is the one most commonly used since the change. And we move on. Andrewa (talk) 23:19, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
    No, this is incorrect. The official name is never irrelevant, as I believe I mentioned to you when we had a discussion on this a few weeks ago. Per WP:OFFICIALNAMES, "They should always be considered as possibilities, but should be used only if they are actually the name most commonly used". In this case, I think the sources show that the new name is the one most commonly used since the change, and you don't seem to have provided evidence that the old name is still commonly used. Thanks!  — Amakuru (talk) 08:32, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
    I think this is playing with words, the onus of proof is on those who wish to move to the new official name. It is never enough just to cite the primary sources that report the name change; In that sense, the change of official name is irrelevant, and I guess I should have been more explicit. But if you think that sources do now show that the new name is now in common use, I'll happily support the move. Andrewa (talk) 23:19, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Comment here for other cricket league franchise name had change and moved. The above sources are official franchise website and official league website. If we look at ESPNCricinfo we can found exactly supergiant. If we see in this article we can found some source from the some Indian newspapers. I'm an Indian and from India. Here I regularly follow the news articles in news/media and found as supergiant (RPS). Or if we wait till its first match on 6th April 2017. The official broadcasts shows as supergiant only, and next day all will tell as supergiant only. 117.251.237.147 (talk) 05:06, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
    • Please note the closing comment for that other RM which resulted in a move: Clearly this is the new name of the team, and the one the media are using. (my emphasis) Note also that the proponents of that move provided reliable secondary sources (they also provided primary sources, but these would have been disregarded by the closer). Perhaps there are such for this team already too, and we even give extra weight to recent sources in these circumstances (although probably not for the 2016 article). Provide these sources and the move should go ahead. But until someone does, it should not. Andrewa (talk) 02:25, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Support. Per the links provided above, and WP:NAMECHANGES, it is clear that the new name is being used and will be used henceforward.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:26, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
    • At the risk of also playing with words, that last clause teeters close to wp:ball. Andrewa (talk) 23:19, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Support per all the sources from India, scorecards, press, etc. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:30, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

See also

which would ideally have been a multi-move with this one. Andrewa (talk) 02:21, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

The first of these has been closed as not moved, but closer explicitly stated that the reasons do not apply to this RM. Andrewa (talk) 06:14, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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