Talk:Ray Lewis/Archive 1

This article wreaks of fangush. Mithotyn 23:49, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Africa work

Didn't he do some charity work in africa recently?

All his charitable work could honestly be a seperate page. His work in Ethiopia last March was impressive.

Trade Demand

Mike Preston is infamous for starting rumors and writing non-factual articles. Noone in Baltimore takes anything he says as fact... so should it be removed? Sertman 23:15, 2 March 2006 (UTC)Sertman

Interesting Story

Nothing of importance, but I remember my elementary school art teacher telling me about how he used to teach Ray Lewis when he was younger. His name escapes me right now, but he was a good teacher. I believe he had also once taught Warrick Dunn --Zeerus (ETC) 20:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC) --um, ok, but that has absolutely no place in the article, TBH Jedck 15:15, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Plea Bargain

This is rediculous. I probably hate Ray Lewis as much as anyone else does, but to say there was a plea bargain in the murder case was rediculous. If you can't get the facts straight, then just leave the article alone. We don't need your blatant bias. The charges against him were dropped because there was absolutely no evidence that would support the idea that he murdered the two guys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jedck (talk • contribs)

• No, he plead guilty to a misdemeanor. Source:[1].--M@rēino 19:30, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes, but that doesn't mean there was a plea bargain Jedck 21:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
    • There absolutely was a plea bargain. That's exactly why one pleads guilty to a lesser charge, the definition of a plea bargain. If the murder charge was simply dropped due to lack of evidence, then Lewis would not have plead guilty to a lesser charge. Google for "Ray Lewis Plea Bargain" and you will get a ton of relevant results. Please keep YOUR blatant bias out of Wikipedia and do your research next time. - 66.93.144.171 04:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

It clearly was a plea bargain. Here is a link to both audio and text on this matter reported by NPR. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1075055

Here is another link. We should be clear that Lewis would have been charged not with murder, but certainly a charge of conspiracy or the lesser charge of obstruction of justice.

Here is a link from Sports Illustrated based on an interview with Lewis's attorney.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/2000/06/05/charles_garland/

(APA)

Also, let's get in the habit of learning to spell ridiculous correctly. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.39.115.162 (talk • contribs) on 15:21, 22 January 2007 (UTC); Please sign your posts!

Let's get in the habit of signing our posts kk thnx 74.225.130.13 07:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

This section seems far too kind to Mr. Lewis. I've heard people talk about how there were 22 witnesses to him stabbing the two men. A cursory search led me to the sided, but moderately informative blog http://aofg.blogs.com/the_airing_of_grievances/2006/11/nfl_sideline_re.html which states:

1. On a winter night in 2000, two men, Richard Lollar and Jacinth Baker were stabbed to death on a sidewalk outside of a night club in Atlanta, GA.

2. There were three men accused in these murders. One of them was Ray Lewis, pro-bowl middle linebacker for the Baltimore Ravens. The other two were Ray's friends.

3. They never did find the clothes that Ray was wearing that night. His limousine was however covered in blood.

4. Ray and his friends purchased combat knives at a local Wal-Mart the day of the murders.

5. The state of Georgia originally had several witnesses that would testify that Ray Lewis stabbed a man to death, but inexplicably, these witnesses changed their stories as the trial approached.

6. Forensics teams had a blood trail linking Ray to the murders. This was the same forensics team that analyzed the blood trail in the OJ Simpson case.

7. Upon being accused of murder, instead of going to trial, he chose to plea bargain out and plead guilty to a bullshit charge of obstructing justice. In return, he would testify against his friends.

8. Trial came, and Ray got on the stand and began spewing some garbage about his friend explaining how to stab someone but everything was chaotic and he doesn't really know what happened. With the assistance of an extremely expensive law team that someone only with Ray's money could afford, his boys were acquitted and to this day the only person charged with a crime was Ray.

9) In 2004, in an attempt to avoid a civil suit, Ray Lewis paid one million dollars to the family of the victims.

This is from a Blog. What a joke...

Career Statistics

The statistics being shown are grossly overstated.

Check his career tackles on NFL.com, Sports Illustrated, Stats.com, ESPN.com, and on...

Whomever has posted the numbers here has erroneously almost doubled his total tackles.

Looks good to me...http://nflplayers.com/players/player.aspx?id=23849