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This article was nominated for merging with Premiership of Liz Truss on 22 October 2022. The result of the discussion (permanent link) was merged.

Text and/or other creative content from this version of List of international prime ministerial trips made by Liz Truss was copied or moved into Premiership of Liz Truss with this edit on 22 October 2022. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

This article was nominated for merging with October 2022 United Kingdom government crisis on 22 October 2022. The result of the discussion (permanent link) was did not merge.

Liz or Elizabeth[edit]

Joevaneshaan has changed the infobox from Liz to Elizabeth Truss - I reverted this change but he reverted back. I see no reason for this change. She is called Liz by pretty much all reliable sources and, although WP:COMMONNAME refers to article titles, I see no reason to deviate from standard reliable sources for the infobox. For comparison, the Premiership of Tony Blair infobox does not call him Anthony. WJ94 (talk) 08:18, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone calls her Liz, so who cares. Orbitingelectron (talk) 03:02, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal: "List of international prime ministerial trips made by Liz Truss" to here[edit]

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Done Merged 22 October 2022 by User:GenQuest

I propose merging List of international prime ministerial trips made by Liz Truss into Premiership of Liz Truss as, following the announcement of her resignation, the number of trips remains at two and could arguably no longer warrant a page to itself.

Tombricks (talk) 13:53, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Support Iveagh Gardens (talk) 13:58, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Arcahaeoindris (talk) 14:02, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support PolarManne (talk) 14:03, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support; we have enough permastubs. DFlhb (talk) 14:20, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Tylerstobbs (talk) 15:36, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Agreed. Merge JLo-Watson (talk) 14:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support both articles too short to warrant a WP:FORK. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:53, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Muboshgu (talk) 15:08, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Insufficient in quantity to warrant a breakout article. oknazevad (talk) 15:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: There were articles for the previous two PMs and will be articles for further PMs. It's best to keep the article as is. Unless her successor only lasts a week or so (it's possible), it's best to keep everything standardized. Sometimes "permastubs" are necessary. Notwisconsin (talk) 15:34, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agree on consistency's sake, but there could still be a redirect called the same as the old article name to a section on her premiership page so that it wouldn't look very out of place... BhamBoi (talk) 20:47, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Very few people will take such a short listicle seriously. It's best to discuss Truss's trips alongside the rest of her premiership. — Coolperson177 (t|c) 15:41, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Gillagoth (talk) 17:08, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Schläger4 ^(Talk) 16:11, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Strong support. She may get one more in, but even just three visits is not even close to what is required for a stand-alone list. DecafPotato (talk) 17:26, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Two items simply isn't a list. As regards "consistency": if a PM made no international trips, they would not have a list just for lists' sake. Keeping this standalone would be almost as ridiculous. Kingsif (talk) 20:50, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support, primarily due to the length of Truss's ministry. If multiple related stubs can be merged into a single article, and there's no otherwise majorly inhibiting reason to prevent their merger, full speed ahead with the merger. InvadingInvader (talk) 20:54, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Even if she were to travel to three more countries in the next week (which is unlikely), it would still fit easily into the page on her premiership. Keivan.f^Talk 21:52, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. According to WP:Merge, short text containing only one or two sentences (which currently fits the criteria) and is unlikely to be expanded in a given amount of time, if ever, due to her sudden resignation from the position of Prime Minister. Raymond Kestis (talk) 00:23, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. No-brainer, she will only ever make two trips as PM and these can easily be accommodated in the main article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neiltonks (talk • contribs) 13:54, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per above. XtraJovial (talk • contribs) 14:41, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom Flalf^Talk 14:53, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom 你好... (talk/討論頁) 15:55, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom Unspectrogram (talk) 17:03, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support, nothing that cannot esily be included in articleTheLongTone (talk) 13:39, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Comments[edit]

FYI, I've proposed the same at List of departures from the Truss ministry for similar reasons. You may be interested in the discussion at talk:Truss ministry -- 65.92.247.226 (talk) 15:39, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, there is a similar proposal for Trussonomics that is occurring at talk:Trussonomics -- 65.92.247.226 (talk) 04:18, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FYI: proposed merge October 2022 United Kingdom government crisis to here[edit]

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Did not agree to merge

Moved to talk:October 2022 United Kingdom government crisis

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Orphaned references in Premiership of Liz Truss[edit]

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Reference named "hmt-202209":

From IR35: "The Growth Plan 2022" (PDF). HM Treasury. September 2022. p. 26. CP 743. Retrieved 13 October 2022 – via gov.uk.
From September 2022 United Kingdom mini-budget: The Growth Plan 2022 (PDF). HM Treasury. September 2022. ISBN 978-1-5286-3688-9. CP 743. Retrieved 13 October 2022.
From Kwasi Kwarteng: The Growth Plan 2022 (PDF). HM Treasury. September 2022. ISBN 978-1-5286-3688-9. CP 743. Archived (PDF) from the original on 23 September 2022. Retrieved 13 October 2022 – via gov.uk.

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