Talk:Portsmouth, New Hampshire/Archive 1

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Notable Inhabitants

There seem to be waay too many on this list. Would anyone be willing to move the list to Portsmouth, New Hampshire/Notable inhabitants and trimming the one on this page down to the most notable? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. However, I'm not sure if the list should be in a subpage instead of a page like Notable Inhabitants from Portsmouth Thank you for your suggestion on improving this article. --EvaGears 04:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
And thank you for doing that! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:23, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
The page should NOT be a subpage. Please read Wikipedia:Subpages. You should move it to something like Notable residents of Portsmouth, New Hampshire, and then get the subpage deleted. You should also think about creating categories of residents, such as Politicians, Entertainers, etc. BlankVerse 03:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Done. Page moved to List of notable inhabitants of Portsmouth, New Hampshire. Will create category. We might consider reformatting and expanding the page to look like List of notable people from the Halifax Regional Municipality. I'll create the category, too, and populate. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Update: someone already did it :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Proposed link

An external link I added to the page on Portsmouth, New Hampshire was deleted apparently because it was deemed a commercial link. After browsing your guidelines, I see that I should have first proposed adding link here because, while I think the link is relevant and in line with Wikipedia guidelines, I have a conflict of interest.

So ... I propose adding an external link for the Portsmouth NH page to www.portsmouthnh.com. The site is a commercial site, but it has free useful information, such as descriptions and links to area attractions, movie listings, a custom local weather forecast, local tides, a guide to restaurants and accommodations, a calendar of events, free links to local nonprofit organizations, and many regional photographs.

I would argue that PortsmouthNH.com contains at least as much information about the city of Portsmouth as the three newspaper sites that already links on the page. And, how can an Ottaway Newspapers publication, which is owned by Dow Jones Company, be regarded as less commercial than a sole proprietorship operated by a local resident? As for relevancy, a reviewer in the above-mentioned Ottaway paper wrote last fall that PortsmouthNH.com "is truly packed with information and is a must for visitors as well as locals." www.seacoastonline.com/calendar/07202006/entertainment-s-jy20-webreview-jy7.html

Thanks for your consideration. Zpinhead 14:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I checked other cities in the region to see how commercial regional guides like this are handled. New Hampshire cities have pretty diligent editors who have been keeping links like this off their pages, so I looked for cities in nearby states. Boston, for example, does not provide links to such guides. Cities like Portland, Maine, and Hartford, Connecticut, do, however. My personal belief is that the New Hampshire and Boston editors have the right idea in keeping links to regional commercial pages off the external links. City articles which do show links to regional guides tend to have long lists of external links which make navigating difficult. This is precisely the situation that the wikipedia policy against "link farms" is intended to avoid. So, sorry, but I think the editor was right to revert the link. Ken Gallager 12:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Pictures

Can we get some that are not a hundred years old? --141.154.208.152 01:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Depends -- have you got any ;-)?
Atlant 14:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 00:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Capital of What Colony?

Contains the following sentence: "In 1679, Portsmouth became the colonial capital." It is my understanding that the Province of New Hampshire was formed from the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1691. Was it actually formed in 1679? 76.102.31.185 (talk) 03:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

What happened to Norfolk County?

It is my understanding that Portsmouth joined Norfolk County when it became a part of MA Bay Colony in 1643. Does anyone know if Norfolk County encompassed all of present New Hampshire? Also, did it stay as a county when the Province of New Hampshire was formed in 1769? Did Norfolk County live on until 1769, when all the "original" counties, such as Rockingham, were incorporated? I haven't even been able to find out what happened to the status of New Hampshire in 1769! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.31.185 (talk) 03:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Most of your answers are found in http://Norfolkcountymagen.info/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:cda6:51b0:8158:83b1:72a:c80 (talk • contribs) 00:29, December 4, 2015‎

History - Name of the Area

I deleted the statement the the settlement in 1830 was called Piscataqua. I cite two references: The Placenames of Portsmouth by Nancy Grossman and Strawbery Banke by J. Robinson. If there is some reference for this name, please give it before making this statement. JJ (talk) 13:14, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Treaty of Portsmouth

Why doesn't the article mention the 1905 Treaty of Portsmouth, the first international treaty to be signed in the United States? Irina 199.19.138.101 (talk) 19:13, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

It does, it's the last sentence in the History section and links off to the separate page for the Treaty itself. InTheTrees (talk) 23:23, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Too many images; query about a possible new page

The page as it exists today seems overloaded with pictures. It looks like there may be one or more opportunities for list articles some of these could be used on.

We do have List of National Historic Landmarks in New Hampshire and National Register of Historic Places listings in Rockingham County, New Hampshire but we don't have List of historic houses in New Hampshire (which there appears to be precedent for e.g. Massachusetts), List of the oldest buildings in New Hampshire (again, for which there are others e.g. MA). Some other relevant categories which may help: category:Lists of buildings and structures in New Hampshire, category:Buildings and structures in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, category:Houses in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, category:Architecture in New Hampshire. --— Rhododendrites talk \\ 23:52, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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Education

Ken_Gallager took out my edit adding UNH to the Education section because he said the list was for institutions in Portsmouth only. The heading doesn't say "in" and the dominant institution of higher education for Portsmouth is UNH even though it is in Durham. Conversely, Portsmouth is also a focal point for the university. The university sponsors institutions in Portsmouth. Staff and students live there. There is regular UNH operated bus service to UNH. If the topic is "Education" on a Portsmouth page and we're including institutions of higher education, I would think those wishing to learn about Portsmouth would be as interested in that relationship with the state's flagship university as the existence of a satellite office of an online college housed in a local community college that happens to be within the city boundaries.--Harrelson3 (talk) 01:06, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

The same argument can be applied to all other towns and cities within 15 miles of UNH. Sometimes in Wikipedia articles about US communities there may be a tourist attraction or other location listed that is a few miles outside the city or town limits, but not this great a distance and not when there are so many other communities nearby that have the same relationship. The closest parallel in New Hampshire is the Manchester article, where St. Anselm College is mentioned. In that case, however, it is because St. Anselm uses a Manchester mailing address, and many people don't even realize that it is just outside the city limits in Goffstown. I encourage you to look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline to see how the issue is handled. You'll need to use a search term; I found that "outside" gets you to a lot of relevant discussion. Ken Gallager (talk) 10:23, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
Your arguments for inclusion could be reasons for including UNH in the article, but any one of them would need to be stated in the article, with proper reference to a published source. Otherwise, it's just your opinion. For comparison, I checked the articles for the two other communities that have a stronger relationship to the university. Newmarket has a single statement in the opening paragraph that many UNH students and faculty members live in the town. That statement matches my personal understanding of the makeup of Newmarket's population; however, the statement is uncited, and there is no further discussion in the body of the article. A better example is the Dover article, which mentions the UNH Wildcat Bus in the Geography and Transportation section and provides a reference. --Ken Gallager (talk) 10:48, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for that response. Makes sense. There are published sources for the affinity but I take your point regarding the best place for discussing that affinity and the need for a reference. Harrelson3 (talk) 02:36, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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