Talk:Phish/GA1

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GA Reassessment

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As part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles' Project quality task force ("GA Sweeps"), all old good articles are being re-reviewed to ensure that they meet current good article criteria (as detailed at WP:WIAGA.) I have determined that this article needs some work to meet current criteria, outlined below:

• There are a lot of clearly unsourced statements. A small sample is given below:
  • "...calling them "the most important band of the Nineties."

This is cited lower in the article. — MusicMaker5376 02:30, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

• • "Recently, however, Languedoc has begun crafting guitars on custom order and, on a very limited basis, to the general public through local music shops."

Statement can be removed as the article is on Phish and not Paul Languedoc. — MusicMaker5376 02:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

• • "The product of one of these sessions was included in the band's first mass-released recording, a double album called Junta, later that year."
  • "...the audience would react in a certain manner based on a particular musical cue from the band. For instance, if Anastasio "teased" a motif from The Simpsons theme song, the audience would yell, "D'oh!" in imitation of Homer Simpson. (help·info) In 1992, Phish introduced collaboration between audience and band called the "Big Ball Jam" in which each band member would throw a large beach ball into the audience and play a note each time his ball was hit. In so doing, the audience was helping to create an original composition."
  • "Phish, along with Bob Dylan, the Grateful Dead and The Beatles, was one of the first bands to have a Usenet newsgroup, rec.music.phish, which launched in 1991. Aware of the band's growing popularity, Elektra Records signed them that year. The following year A Picture of Nectar was complete: their first major studio release, enjoying far more extensive production than either 1988's Junta or 1990s Lawn Boy. These albums were eventually re-released on Elektra, as well."
  • "The first annual H.O.R.D.E. festival in 1992 provided Phish with their first national tour of major amphitheaters. The lineup, among others, included Phish, Blues Traveler, The Spin Doctors, and Widespread Panic. That summer, the band toured Europe with the Violent Femmes and later toured Europe and the U.S. with Carlos Santana."
  • "On Halloween of that year, the group promised to don a fan-selected "musical costume" by playing an entire album from another band. After an extensive mail-based poll, Phish performed The Beatles' self-titled album — as the second of their three sets at the Glens Falls Civic Center in upstate New York. Following the death of Grateful Dead frontman Jerry Garcia in the summer of 1995 and the appearance of "Down With Disease" on Beavis and Butthead, the band experienced a surge in the growth of their fan base and an increased awareness in popular culture."
  • ...and so on and so forth.
• Many citations need to be properly and consistently formatted.
• What makes pwnordie, phish.net, phunky, and brianrobert.com reliable sources?

The question of phish.net was addressed several years ago. While it is, technically, a fansite, it's run by the same people who head the Mockingbird Foundation, a Phish-related charity. I can't speak to the other two, but brianrobert.com is being cited as a reference to its own existence. — MusicMaker5376 02:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

That's all well and good, but what makes these groups notable enough to be cited? I'm not questioning their existence, but their inclusion (and we need sources for judging that.) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 19:06, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

• What makes File:Halloween 1995.jpg meet WP:NFCC?

I am putting the article on hold for one week pending improvements to the above. If you have questions or comments, please write them in this space. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 22:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Since there has been no progress on the above, I am delisting the article. It may be renominated at WP:GAN at any time, though I encourage improvement. Questions or comments should be directed to my talk page. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 17:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.