Talk:Operation Basalt

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My grand-father, a German officer on Guernsey, reported to me that he spoke to the only German survivor of this raid, except the soldier who was captured. It was was actually the one who was stabbed: he was only hurt by the tip of the knife that scratched the back of his head, hard enough make him unconscious and left for dead. This soldier, a "Pionier" from Guernsey, reported that the prisoners wanted to escape by running away at the same time. They fell into barbered wire and were shot.

I removed this super story from User 81.247.191.211 because it is not encyclopedic. Darn shame though. Neat little bit of family history Paul, in Saudi 13:18, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Sark raid[edit]

Reasons given in Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Style guide#Events --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 08:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV[edit]

In addition to the lack of cited sources, the article seems to explicitly acknowledge that there are two different versions of events given by the British and German sides respectively, but one of them is presented as fact and the other as a "propaganda communiqué". Is there a good reason for this? 92.39.200.36 (talk) 10:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Very good question. Since the only source for the allied version are the commandos themselves, it is very unlikely that if they would have commited any warcrimes, that they would report those and not lie about their intentions. Overall the article misses a NPOV. Moreover it is stated that the surviving prisoner turned out to be a "goldmine of information". This is non encyclopedic. There isnt even any source of what informations the allied would have gathered through him and how. Prisoners of war usually dont give secrets away that threatens comrades, just because their prison guards are such nice fellows. It appears that he was tortured in the sake of getting information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.98.196.81 (talk) 09:51, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above comment is inaccurate. There is a great deal of information about the prisoner who was captured and the information collected from it, and it is all available in the National Archives in Kew, London. The prisoner's name was Hermann Weinreich and he was interrogated over the course of several days. He provided very detailed information about the defences on Sark and elsewhere including real-time intelligence about a boat coming over from Guernsey on the day after the raid. All of this is available in this file in the National Archives: DEFE 2/109. I will be using a great deal of this information in my forthcoming book, Operation Basalt, to be published by The History Press later this year (2015). More will be found on the website which accompanies the book, http://www.operationbasalt.com . And saying that he "he was tortured" without providing any evidence of this at all is inaccurate and libelous. Weinreich survived the war, most of which he spent in Canada, and was repatriated to Germany on 27 February 1947. Ericlee (talk) 10:28, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Three dead Germans ?[edit]

Two were believed shot and one stabbed by Ogden-Brown - including the stabbed-to-death sentry at the beginning the overall result is: four dead Germans - isn't it ? --213.172.123.242 (talk) 07:13, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Raid numbers[edit]

If the raid only consisted of 12 men, why are thirteen men listed as participants?174.0.48.147 (talk) 20:22, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]