Talk:Olaf Swenson

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Some open (mostly detail) questions and notes if you are interested in extending this contribution[edit]

Family[edit]

Nils Swenson dates and place of birth (ie where in Sweden? d1912 (Montana?)

Amelia Petersen’s dates (b 1863?) and place of birth.

Olaf’s grandmother’s name. (Presumably Amelia Petersen’s mother?) Probably Sofia, wife of Ole Petersen. This family, Norwegian immigrants, appear in the 1880 census for Manistee. Amelia is listed as 17 years old and working as a domestic. There is also an Amelia Peterson listed as a domestic in another household, not a member of that family. Both 17, probably same person? ~~This info is presently excluded from the article because the connections are conjectural and so could violate verifiability and NOR~~ confirmed from Census and M Sweson wedding story

Sophie Peterson, great-grandmother of Marion Swenson, was living in Muskegon at the time of Marion's wedding, November 1937. Spokane Daily Chronicle Nov 17.

Olaf’s brother’s name and dates? Probably Sven

Olaf and Charlotte's date and place of marriage? 1904 Seattle

Charlotte Johnson’s dates and place of birth. Did she remarry? Sweden, ca 1886 immigrated 1903. Relocated to Los Angeles by 1940. She was presumably Carl Johnson's sister. Johnson managed the Anadyr trading station for Swenson and was a noted Nome dog racer. Not clear whether he is the same person as the Charlie Johnson on the Northeastern Siberian Anadyr expedition.

Son’s name and dates (late 1904-1910) place of birth

Marion Swenson DOB place?? Date of marriage to Thomas Ferguson? added to article

Other daughter's name and dates. Marjory or Marjorie born ca 1918, married John Van Uden 1942

Any other children of Olaf and Charlotte?

Place names needing identification[edit]

St. Lawrence Bay Siberia (I suppose the bay now site of Russian town Lavrenstiya?)

yes. Saint Lawrence Bay, Chukotka Dankarl (talk) 21:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC) This is where the Northeastern Siberian prospectors disembarked in 1902Dankarl (talk) 23:20, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
see the Northeast Northern Far East map in External Links Dankarl (talk) 17:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mud Bay (Bering Strait area)

St. Nicholas Bay (Anadyr region)

possibly synonymous with Anadyr Bay, the outer lagoon of Anadyr estuary, or a part thereof.Dankarl (talk) 13:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barankoff Bay (may be variant spelling)(Anadyr region)Dankarl (talk) 13:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC) most likely equals Baron Koff bay which most likely equals Korfa Bay, NE Kamchatka.Dankarl (talk) 00:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Russian Spit (Anadyr region)

At least found another source that mentioned the nameDankarl (talk) 23:20, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe the northern spit of the outer Anadyr Estuary? Wikimapia calls this "Russian Cat"Dankarl (talk) 17:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC) See Russkaya Koshka Dankarl (talk) 13:39, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Soharmi (near mouth of Kolyma River? possibly Sukharnyy an island in the mouth of the Kolyma?)

Sulgutter (west or south of Srednekolmysk)

other biographical[edit]

I'm pretty sure nobody's done a full bio of Swenson but is there a short bio in a historical society journal someplace?

The NYT piece on Swenson's death is not a full obituary

ie no list of survivors, etc. Should be such in the Seattle papersDankarl (talk) 23:20, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Did Swenson hold a masters license? He is often listed as Captain Swenson but this could be courtesy.

Impact of Russian Civil War[edit]

Does anybody know an English language reference that covers the Yakut rebellion and other late events of the Russian civil war.

There are a couple websites with a lot of interesting info but not clearly sourced: http://www.worldstatesmen.org/Russia_war.html, http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Rotunda/2209/Khabarovsk.html Dankarl (talk) 17:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like Bochkarev (Swenson's Bochkarov?) was a major player in events 1921-23 on Okhotsk coast.Dankarl (talk) 17:43, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
see Mikhail Korobeinikov for Bochkarev involvement in Yakut Revolt.

Date of Japanese withdrawal from Kamchatka, I've seen this as 1922 and 1925.

1925 date was probably confused with Sakhalin Island. Not clear there was ever a full occupation of Kamchatka. Looks like the Bolsheviks were in control until the Whites came in in 1921 with Japanese support? Dankarl (talk) 17:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know where to find an English language nautical chart of the Siberian Pacific coast from Whaling days? Dankarl (talk) 19:49, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

[citation needed].[edit]

and the first body was discovered February 13 by Soviet searchers from the ship Stavropol, Mavriky Slepnyov, and Joe Crossan. Gillam arrived in the evening and identified Borland. Four days later the body of Eyelson was found.[citation needed].

This is citation - 2 books in russian:

1.Слепнев М.Т. Трагедия в проливе Лонг // Советская Арктика (Москва). 1937. стр.10. 2.Негенбля И.Е. Над безграничной Арктикой. Якутск. 1997. стр. 157-159.

Slepnyov M.T. Tragedy in Long Strait / / Soviet Arctic (Moscow). 1937. p.10.
Negenblya I.E. Above the Arctic limitless. Yakutsk. 1997. pp. 157-159.

thanks. I added English citations to article and formatted your response here for readibility. Dankarl (talk) 19:15, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]