Talk:Mosaic (murder mystery)

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Did you know... that Steven Soderbergh's Mosaic is both a mobile app and a television miniseries?

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Requested move 6 April 2018[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to any particular title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 22:40, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mosaic (murder mystery) → Mosaic (TV series) – I know it isn't technically *just* a TV series, but it has been released as such. Maybe it isn't perfect, but we never disambiguate anything by genre, and the disambiguator isn't sufficient to identify the topic. Open to other suggestions to move away from the genre disambiguator we have now. --wooden superman 09:03, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As an afterthought, what about Mosaic (interactive TV series)? --wooden superman 09:05, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The app part is described as an "interactive film experience" so any title using (TV series) seems wrong. A WP:SPLIT would solve this easily, but I feel that the topic is just served better as one.I honestly feel the film quality is more significant, with the TV series being derivative of the film (essentially, being broken up for broadcast), and so I am leaning toward suggesting Mosaic (2018 film). -- Netoholic @ 20:22, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Verge have referred to it as a "free interactive TV series", a Google search will bring up a lot of references to it as a TV series (or similar) and hardly any for a film... --wooden superman 14:29, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose. (Note: I am the article creator.) It didn't even START as a TV series; the app came first. You could just as easily argue it move to Mosaic (app) or Mosaic (video game). Additionally, "interactive TV series" implies that either the App is a TV series, or that the TV series is interactive somehow (it's not, it's just a TV series). "Film" implies a theatrical release, which didn't happen here. I agree that genre is an unusual disambiguator, but "platform" is just impossible to use in this circumstance. It is definitely a murder mystery in both its incarnations, so in response to the nominator's comment, yes, genre does identify the topic (There are no other murder mysteries by this name to my knowledge). If you truly hate genre as a disambiguator, you could propose something like Mosaic (Steven Soderbergh), but that feels wrong too (there were lots of people involved in the production). Mosaic (app and TV series) would be wordy and confusing but basically accurate as another alternative. It still seems worse than "murder mystery" to me which doesn't try to jam too much information into the title; readers can peruse the lead paragraph to find out the details, but I would be less opposed to "app and TV series" at least. SnowFire (talk) 15:40, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Mosaic (murder mystery) is wrong disambig. no matter how you slice it. If it does indeed cover multiple media platforms, then I would suggest Mosaic (franchise) as probably the best solution. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:10, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support for Mosaic (franchise), as proposed by IJBall. This is the most common convention for series of media that span multiple mediums. –IagoQnsi (talk) 01:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really think it qualifies as a "franchise", it's the same series that could be viewed over two platforms, an interactive app and a TV series. --wooden superman 08:03, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose all alternatives - Per WP:RECENT its better to leave it at an unambiguous title. Its apparent in the discussion and the sources I've checked so far that this sort of presentation is new and hard to to classify, and that we'll probably get it wrong. I have found no sources to support (franchise) and it doesn't really apply since its the same content just re-cut for different mediums. I've no issue with this being an acknowledged exception to the naming guidelines for the time being and it should NOT be used as precedent. I encourage people to put in place any redirects which they think will help. -- Netoholic @ 13:50, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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