Talk:Melungeon/Archive 6
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Southwest Virginia vs. Western Virginia
Hi, coming here to discuss a disagreement as to whether to use "western Virginia" or "Southwest Virginia" in the infobox. I've explained my position in the edit history, and also linked to a source using the terminology (that was already linked in the infobox).
Can the other editors please explain their position on why "western Virginia" is a better term? In my head, "Southwest Virginia" makes more sense, as "western Virginia" could just as well refer to the counties of the state that border West Virginia. Whereas, the sources in the infobox, and elsewhere in the article, link Melungeons to the Cumberland Gap area and specify that the part of the state we're talking about here is where Virginia meets Kentucky and Tennessee, i.e. its southwest. Furthermore, why not link to the Southwest Virginia page but link to East Tennessee?
Appreciate the work done on this article to remove fringe theories. 2601:18D:4600:A610:3D50:F366:7820:7134 (talk) 17:46, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- My major concern at this point is the frequent reverting without discussion, which is why I asked you to discuss here. Yuchitown has made many improvements to the article recently, so let's wait for their comments. But don't revert again without a consensus here. Sundayclose (talk) 17:50, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- Understandable, thanks. Would like to add to my previous comment that the book Other Souths, used a source that specifically uses the term "western Virginia" also refers to Albemarle County as being in "western Virginia near Charlottesville." Thus, for this author, western Virginia refers to a huge swath of area, including those northwestern counties of the state. Albemarle County, I think, is decidedly not in the territory associated with Melungeons or in Appalachia. Thus, I think this book actually lends more credence to using the term Southwest Virginia to be more specific. 2601:18D:4600:A610:3D50:F366:7820:7134 (talk) 18:12, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- Honestly on this particular subject, I couldn't care less. Find decent secondary, published reliable sources and source the edit you want. I'm much more concerned about the wp:fringe theories creeping in and self-published sources. Yuchitown (talk) 23:08, 4 August 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown
- Okay, reverting to my edit that used the USA Today article as a source for "Southwest Virginia," which I made before I was asked to bring it to the talk page. 2601:18D:4600:A610:D12D:DE57:B8A4:C487 (talk) 16:40, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with @Yuchitown The article right now is a huge WP:REDFLAG StephanieTree (talk) 02:12, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, reverting to my edit that used the USA Today article as a source for "Southwest Virginia," which I made before I was asked to bring it to the talk page. 2601:18D:4600:A610:D12D:DE57:B8A4:C487 (talk) 16:40, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
- I agree- the citation reference book Other Souths is not properly cited in this article, nor is it relevant. I believe it should be removed. StephanieTree (talk) 02:18, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Honestly on this particular subject, I couldn't care less. Find decent secondary, published reliable sources and source the edit you want. I'm much more concerned about the wp:fringe theories creeping in and self-published sources. Yuchitown (talk) 23:08, 4 August 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown
- Understandable, thanks. Would like to add to my previous comment that the book Other Souths, used a source that specifically uses the term "western Virginia" also refers to Albemarle County as being in "western Virginia near Charlottesville." Thus, for this author, western Virginia refers to a huge swath of area, including those northwestern counties of the state. Albemarle County, I think, is decidedly not in the territory associated with Melungeons or in Appalachia. Thus, I think this book actually lends more credence to using the term Southwest Virginia to be more specific. 2601:18D:4600:A610:3D50:F366:7820:7134 (talk) 18:12, 4 August 2023 (UTC)