Talk:Matthew Kennedy (footballer, born 1970)

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 08:41, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

– I don't believe that the Australian rules player is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here, therefore it would make more sense to have "Matthew Kennedy" as a disambiguation page. The Scottish football player is currently at Matthew Kennedy (footballer), which would appear to be ambiguous with the Australian rules player, as that sport is known as "football" in Australia. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 14:48, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support all. I think it was more a case of chronology, rather than primarytopic, that lead us to the current position, as the Australian footballer was created at least 2 years before any of the others. Please remember to redirect the Matthew Kennedy (footballer) page to the dab page once it's all done. As there is an Australian rugby league player as well, and they sometimes/rarely call their game football too (see Football in Australia, but don't waste time reading the years of arguments on the talk page), we generally go to Matthew Kennedy (Australian rules footballer) to be absolutely clear, but that's generally more used if there is an Australian soccer player of the same name, and can be done later if need be. The-Pope (talk) 16:36, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Such a proposal should be made with some kind of evidence showing other uses are comparably likely to be searched. Google test, page view counts, something. --В²C ☎ 00:59, 9 August 2014 (UTC) see below[reply]

And you were unable to do so? 4000 hits per month for the Scot vs 300 for the Aussie makes it fairly clear. The recentism of a current player vs a retired player, I wouldn't want to suggest (yet) that the Scot is the primary topic at this point in time. Maybe if he goes on to play regularly at SPL/EPL/international level, it will change, but the suggestion from the originator is the best solution. Opposing on bureaucratic/technical grounds isn't really very useful. The-Pope (talk) 03:58, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support - the onus of evidence is on primary topic, so B2C's unhelpful post above should be ignored, but FWIW "Matthew Kennedy" football fails to provide evidence of either footballer being much noted. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:45, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- No, the onus is on the proposer (and supporters) of the change. See WP:TITLECHANGES. A baseless claim that an article's topic is not primary, in and of itself, is not a good reason to change. --В²C ☎ 04:57, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense, not in the case of a common sense questioning of Primary with a generic name like Matthew Kennedy. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:36, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support given page hit counts provided by The-Pope (thanks). --В²C ☎ 04:57, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support at the very least, the Scot's article is misnamed, as if the Aussie-rules player is the primary topic, then he should be the target of "footballer" or the disambiguation page should. -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 05:20, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, I note for the record that Matthew Kennedy (footballer) is an abysmal title and the Scot's page would have to move even if the man Matthew Kennedy was the most notable football player of any variety that ever lived. However, a quick reading of the Aussie's article convinced me; no primary topic here. Support all Red Slash 20:08, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Lots of notable men called Matthew Kennedy, there isn't a sole primary topic. This seems like a sensible way to disambiguate. IJA (talk) 17:02, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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