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This is a sweet article but it needs more "References". The article gives info on Greek, Roman & Middle Ages. Can an Editor who is interested help me out here? Regards Sir Floyd (talk) 03:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lumbarda is simply the synonym for Fatbardha that means in the albanian language: FATBARDHA(fatbardhë):fortunate, fortune, good fortune, fortunate ones LUMBARDHA LUM:river, blessed, blessed are, happy.

Illyrian trace is also evident in the name of sandy beache Bilin Žal: ZALL:gravel noun: gravel, shingle, grit Zall, sand, shingle, gravel stones — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.201.128.174 (talk) 11:14, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]


unsigned Hi, I just added a small section to the Middle Ages passage, as a possible reference to a trading post (as per 1214AD statute content) given that the word only appears in the current format in the 13th century. I was hoping someone could edit it without totally voiding it. I used the word possible a few times, as an attribution to an opinion rather than a referenced stub/fact. I hope that was ok.

My theory was based on here-say from locals, so its not a full blown fact, but it does seem credible. The loophole in the Korcula statute of 1214 does indicate a penalty for those who stay over night in the area. The suggestion was that this might be a form of a toll based tax, collected by the Korcula council on behalf of the church (who indirectly owned land fraternities) in Lumbarda. In Croatian, the word bratovstina is denoted as a form of a Land Fraternity owned by the church but leased to peasants (much like common land in Western Europe). The church ruins stipulated, prove that the church had land holdings in the area. It also makes sense that the land in question is later quoted in the article as 'private land owned by nobility'. The practice of usurping common land on behalf of the state/church and enclosing it in private estates was wide spread throughout Europe.

The other factor to consider is the common name Lumbarda with Lombard (as a banking definition in trade). If it was a trading post, than the two words link up rather well. "As a reference to a centre of business demarcated by commodities based collateral", both topography & historical records do suggest an early link to the Republic of Venice; which was at that time an active member of the Lombard League. Given the close proximity to the Republic of Dubrovnik, its plausible to expect merchants from afar frequenting these shores on a regular basis. And we know that Dubrovnik was actively trading at the time with North Italy...

If someone could look at it, and moderate it a little bit. Some of the sentences might have to be restructured!

Many Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.24.171 (talk) 14:23, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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