Talk:Luca Scapuzzi

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free agent 2009[edit]

Here is my private copy. Lega Serie A web archive went wrong that CS no.9 and no.10 both showed C.S. n.9. http://www.scribd.com/doc/71938991/Comunicati-Segreteria-N%C2%B010-2009%E2%80%9310-season Matthew_hk tc 15:53, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for posting that link here. As you can see from the article updates I've gone ahead and substituted that link for the original one you supplied. There really is no value in newly adding a dead link RS citation to an article, especially when it links to a source that is written in Italian (as most users accessing an English language Wikipedia page will not be able to understand it anyway even if the link is good). Leaving an existing RS citation that has become dead in place (rather than removing it) is another matter entirely, since it may contain information that will enable the original link to be recovered or an alternative link found. So on that basis I will dump below the link information I replaced in the article (just in case someone else can get the link you wanted to include to work as intended):
"Comunicati Segreteria N°10 (2009–10)" (PDF). Lega Calcio (in Italian). 27 July 2009. Retrieved 27 July 2009. [dead link]
BTW, which is the preferred way of referring to Luca's previous club ... Portogruaro or PortoSummaga? You used both in the text and I standardized on the first one on the basis that referring to, say, Nottingham Forest as Notts Forest, Forest, Nottingham and Nottingham Forest all in the same text just looks sloppy and indisciplined, and has the reader immediately asking, "So which is it?" OTOH, later in the article I referred to Oldham both by their full name and their nickname (the Latics) just to break up the monotony of always saying Oldham Athletic. Which of those two examples best fits using both Portogruaro and PortoSummaga in the same text? Mancini's Lasagne invite to Harry Talk 8 November 2011 (UTC)
For Portogruaro or PortoSummaga, Italian use both, i don't know which is more common. For the "loan", seems everyone refer to this wiki article and wiki article refer to TMW news article. And TMW sometimes made mistake, i had the private copy of Portogruaro news archive 2009-10, but it just said he passed the medical and "hired" (instead of signing, which sometimes hired especially for free agent in the wording of Italian news article). For the Lega Calcio document, it is the free agent list that Lega Calcio did not receive the club filed the "new" contract, which in turn assume them free agent. If there is a loan, Lega Calcio won;t assume Milan releasing him in late July, as the necessary transfer document would already filed. There is no rule that non-English source can't be used. Matthew_hk tc 04:46, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I follow your reasoning and so far I have synchronized my edits to support it. However, take a look at this - the item entitled: "(22/07/2011)-AC Milan striker for City?". If Luca had transferred over to Portogruaro as you claim, rather than having been on a 2 year loan there, shouldn't Mancini have raided Portogruaro last July rather than Milan? "There is no rule that non-English source can't be used." No, I never said there was. However, they should only be used when alternative comparable English language sources are not available - which, of course, is the case here. The point of my comment was only that even when their use is justified they are still not much use if only a small percentage of people reading them are able to comprehend what they are saying. Mancini's Lasagne invite to Harry Talk 07:39, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
goal.com, bbc all seems refer to this article. Simple cross-reference error. There is no single news in acmilan.com but in Portogruaro, they said the player terminated the contract with the club. And except free loan, usually ac milan would list the loan in its financial report. It is wiredweird if it is a 3-year loan.
Lastly, you website already wrote "The Unofficial source for everything related to the Reserve and Academy sides at Manchester City."
P.S. I'm one of the active writer for Italian lower league. Other "writer" either provide a infobox only or all bullshit without source. User:Luxic is another user but you can ask him to comment the source Italian Serie A league office "Press release CS n.10". Matthew_hk tc 15:49, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also the same website, it said Scapuzzi was under contract with Portogruaro to 2012 in the end of 2010–11 Serie B [1], and except the "loan" news in 2009, there is no source for the alleged "loan extension" Matthew_hk tc 15:54, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And some explanation of Italian media. They mainly focused on Serie A and Serie B deals and seldom covered the minor. There is three traditional sports newspaper La Gazzetta, TuttoSport and Corriere dello Sport. TMW is a new one (a digital media) to cover the hole of Lega Pro, but sometimes they made error, so a good editor had to rely on club statement, official transfer list, then using the TMW as reference. Matthew_hk tc 16:36, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/luca-scapuzzi/transfers/spieler_88709.html 82.43.51.8 (talk) 16:55, 6 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

transfermarkt is a rubbish community site and a often made more accurate information then them, because a buy company report from Italian CCIAA and dig out reliable source form Lega Calcio. It is meaningless to rebut me with transfermarkt as their information could not be verified and sometimes hoax. no one verify wikipedia with another wikipedia like project.Matthew_hk tc 18:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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