Talk:Longfellow (disambiguation)

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Requested move 14 May 2018[edit]

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Moved as proposed. bd2412 T 21:04, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Longfellow → Longfellow (disambiguation) – In the same manner that Wordsworth redirects to William Wordsworth, Coleridge to Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Keats to John Keats, Dickens to Charles Dickens and Thoreau to Henry David Thoreau, so should Longfellow redirect to Henry Wadsworth Longfellow who is most frequently referenced by his surname. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 07:10, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support, per nomination and after looking at the disambiguation entries. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:55, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
~~Tentative~~ Oppose. Presenting a laundry-list of other unrelated articles is not evidence that this instance is worthwhile. Please present some kind of evidence that this move will help editors or readers more than it will confuse or interfere. -- Netoholic @ 02:58, 16 May 2018 (UTC) Changing to firm Oppose because OP has replied, but still not provided a policy/guideline-based rationale. -- Netoholic @ 23:58, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

One may be that it's possible that readers will not know or remember Longfellow's first or middle name, and recall just the poet's last name. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:51, 16 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, I have not as yet replied, but my reply is basically the same as the one I gave at the previous such discussion. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 19:00, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Clear primary redirect. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:47, 16 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I'll refrain from opposing this–it may be warranted–but I'd like to echo Netoholic's objection (as well as my own objections in previous requests of this kind) that this kind of rationale is not really a sufficient reason to perform a move. It assumes the conclusion without showing that the cases are commensurable, and doesn't have any grounding in WP:AT or WP:D, which would require some analysis of the relative prominence of other entries on the disambiguation page. Dekimasuよ! 23:55, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Longfellow the poet is known simply by his surname, and this page views analysis shows the poet is the primary topic evidenced by pageviews. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 06:23, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The page view data shows that the poet has the most page views, but (particularly because this is a partial title match) does not really serve as evidence that it is what people want to see when they search for "Longfellow". For example, John Lennon is often referred to as simply John, but we do not redirect John to John Lennon on the basis of these page views. Dekimasuよ! 07:15, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You asked for "some analysis of the relative prominence of other entries on the disambiguation page". The poet has far greater relative prominence. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:24, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

...and John Lennon is sometimes known as simply Lennon, which is why Lennon redirects to John Lennon. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:33, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The lack of other alternatives that are remotely as significant strongly suggests the poet is the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT of "Longfellow".--Cúchullain ^t/c 15:38, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.