Talk:List of highest mountains of the Czech Republic

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Requested move 2 February 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Calidum 04:58, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of highest mountains of the Czech Republic → List of the highest mountains of the Czech Republic – I believe that is the proper spelling of any superlative in English. Martin J. Němeček (talk) 11:52, 2 February 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. SITH (talk) 22:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)—Relisting. Jerm (talk) 16:58, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: should the other "List of highest mountains of country" be nominated for consistency? SITH (talk) 22:11, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support - No-brainer. Primergrey (talk) 02:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:CONCISE and WP:CONSISTENT. There is no need for "the" in this title, and other similar article titles do not include it. Rreagan007 (talk)

I guess it would have to be a part of a wider grammar fix. Change to one title alone doesn't improve really improve Wikipedia. As you pointed out, neither version is consistently used at the moment. And maybe English grammar changed and I haven't noticed? Martin J. Němeček (talk) 05:02, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think either version is grammatically incorrect. It's basically like saying "I'm going to the hospital" vs "I am going to hospital". Either one is acceptable. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:31, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Names consistency? These mountains have a Czech name too.[edit]

When I created this list based on the German version I decided to use the Czech names. For the German list I choose both. Why: I think lists about items in countries should at least contain the names in the native language. With this list I considered to use both names too, but when I saw that only a few of the mountain ranges are known by their English name (if they are known by this name at all), I went for the version that uses the Czech names only.

While for Germans the German names are still familiar I nevertheless added a column with the names in the Czech language.

Out of respect for other countries I always use the names used in this country; if there are historical connections towards Germany I use the German names additionally.(If interested check the corresponding list on the German wiki or de:Liste von Synagogen in Polen or de:Liste von Synagogen in Tschechien. I explained the reason for doing so on the corresponding talk-page.

By changing some of the names of the mountain ranges and keeping the Czech names for others @FromCzech did not create a more consistent version. In fact, it is the other way round.

Freedom and peace for Ukraine

--Wanfried-Dublin (talk) 09:03, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This page is not a dictionary. Information on what the individual mountain ranges are called in Czech is contained on the pages of these mountain ranges, it is not necessary to repeat them here – who needs them, the link takes him to the relevant page, that's how Wikipedia works. The names are consistent with the names of the mountain range pages, ie with the most frequently used names in English texts per WP:COMMONNAME. FromCzech (talk) 09:52, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If I wrote a similar text in the German wikipedia about articles in the Czech Republic or Poland and used your argument I would be called a revanchist.

It is interesting that you say that it is sufficient if relevant information is in the corresponding articles. My list about synagogues in Poland was moved to the draft space because I exactly argued like this. (Okay, some synagogues that are listed there have no article yet. I intented to write them but I got so frustated by know-it-all administators that I all but ended my contributions here).

It seems that it makes a difference if a German uses the former German names or if it is in the English wikipedia. And as I said: to me it is a matter of respect to give the names in the national language.

Solidarity with Ukraine

--Wanfried-Dublin (talk) 11:23, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]