Talk:List of children of Holocaust survivors

New article background & agenda

This page was created when Category:Children of Holocaust Survivors was deleted due to supposed "non-notability" of the trait of being the descendant of holocaust survivors. In 2014, the category was nominated for deletion but came to no consensus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_January_25#Category:Children_of_Holocaust_survivors In 2020, the debate was reintroduced and the ruling was delete: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_April_26#Category:Children_of_Holocaust_survivors

In line with the suggestion within the decision of the 2020 April discussion, I created this article beginning with the list, simply copy+pasted from the category before it was deleted, to preserve the information that was contained in the category. Much work lies ahead to improve the article and make it meet with Wikipedia's standards.

First, the list itself: Each biographical article that was listed in the category has its own citations providing the references that qualify it as belonging on the list. However, this information was not contained in the category, obviously, but these citations must be transferred over now. Second, if possible, Yad Vashem and USHMM and other holocaust survivor databases should be searched to find if the parents are listed. Note that there is a patchwork of such databases and that not every survivor is included on every database. This makes this task difficult. Once achieved, a column could be added to detail what is known about the experience of the first-generation survivors, and whether by "survivors" it is meant that they survived camps or ghettos, or whether they escaped before the roundups and war. Place of birth, date of birth, and number of siblings may also be of interest, as these are each usually profoundly impacted by this history.

Third, information about Second and Third-generation Holocaust survivors as a group should be added to the main body section, or perhaps written in the introduction. This can include mention of the organized groups, such as Generations of the Shoah International, and scientific information about inherited trauma. Common practices of referring to children and grandchildren of holocaust survivors as "second generation survivors" and "third generation survivors" should be researched and included. Finally, there are numerous sources about the importance of the Holocaust and what it means to the descendants of survivors. There is a particular quote from "God, Faith & Identity From the Ashes" wherein a survivor said something along the lines of, "it wasn't us the Nazis were targeting; it was you, the generations, and it was their mission that you would never be born" or something to that effect. I think it would be extremely appropriate to include this quote in the article. I am relatively inexperienced at editing Wikipedia and probably cannot do all this alone, though not for lack of passion for the subject. I don't know how to get related groups and projects, like the ones that deal with Jewish articles, on-board to help enact these changes and would appreciate some guidance from any experienced Wikipedians who see this. Thank you. --Scharb (talk) 18:04, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Possible Sources

• • https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=children+of+holocaust+survivors&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart
  • Aarons, Victoria, and Alan L. Berger. Third-Generation Holocaust Representation: Trauma, History, and Memory. Northwestern University Press, 2017. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt22727kb. Accessed 4 May 2020.
  • https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/mar/15/trauma-second-generation-holocaust-survivors
  • http://www.drevafogelman.com/_psychological_dynamics_in_the_lives_of_third_generation_holocaust_survivors__94110.htm
  • Kahane-Nissenbaum, Melissa C., "EXPLORING INTERGENERATIONAL TRANSMISSION OF TRAUMA IN THIRD GENERATION HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS" (2011). Doctorate in Social Work (DSW) Dissertations. 16. http://repository.upenn.edu/edissertations_sp2/16
  • Wagner, Gottfried and Abraham J. Peck. Unwanted Legacies: Sharing the Burden of Post-Genocide Generations. Texas Tech University Press, 2014. Project MUSE muse.jhu.edu/book/35779.
  • Rosensaft, Menachem Z. God, Faith & Identity from the Ashes: Reflections of Children and Grandchildren of Holocaust Survivors. Jewish Lights Publishing, a Division of LongHill Partners, Inc., 2015.

--Scharb (talk) 18:04, 12 May 2020 (UTC)