Talk:List of best-selling albums in China

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Rihanna and Taylor Swift?[edit]

Is those artists really sold that amount?. I tried to use the link provided with Anti, and doesn't works. Even, tried with Internet Archive. Another sources claims that is only 150,000 copies (actually doesn't specifics pure album and/or digital downloads but is realistic)... Also, Taylor Swift's album has a reference from Twitter which indicates that is 5x Platinum that is nothing related with the "sales" that supposed represents an albums in the best-selling in that country. This Twitter account is not "official". Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 07:56, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: I see the content in "Best-selling physical albums" with Taylor Swift's certification and her 100,000 copies. However, where is Anti with 10x platinum and 150,000 copies?. After that, sources not provide any information about "digital figures" about "million downloads". Incongruous list. Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 08:02, 23 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The link to Anti on QQ Music works both on desktop and mobile; both on Mac and Windows. So do all the other QQ Music links. When the QQ webpapges finish loading, "已售 ####### 首" apears below the album's release date, indicating digital copies sold.

The 10× certification for Anti in China was an unofficial award given by QQ Music. See here for an example of another such certification. --Mαuri^’96 “everything and nothing always haunts me…” 22:39, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: I realize that digital sales are very different from physical sales. Some of those albums on sale on QQ Music only cost 5 yuan (0.68 EUR or 0.73 USD) and sometimes only include 2-5 songs. This is why I decided to create two separate sections.--Mαuri^’96 “everything and nothing always haunts me…” 22:49, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So, it looks that QQ Music is not reliable. Maybe this is one of the reason why, in Anti (album) this reference in "commercial performance" has an unreliable reference template. Is better find another reference, or directly from State Administration of Press, Publication, Radio, Film and Television, who is the body certification in China. Also, at least those sales are not recognized by IFPI. Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 21:04, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

QQ Music can sell album by whole album and each track, the numbers are listed by album or song sale depend on how it is sold. This list is totally wrong by misunderstanding the sale of many album (Korean OST and Western albums). Song sale: 首. Album sale: 张. Taylor Swift's 1989 sold 4mln song downloads, not albums, same with Rihanna and Western acts. Kuraxmol (talk) 12:22, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

QQ music reference[edit]

Several months ago, I started here a discussion about the legitimacy on sales records that came from especially QQ Music. I don't know how reliable the source is, but I always believe that is not a good source to reference the record sales, more when they present really high sales like Anti of Rihanna and whatever is call the Swift's album.

In Withness album a user asked include this source in the article. Here is the discussion when a user explain that QQ music is a fan source. And the other one asked for something reasonable, to avoid include a certification without the knowledge of the chart.

So I think that the most appropiate is remove all albums and information with this source. That is true that China is the biggest country in the world, but I don't believe that those sales are true, even if we're counting streaming (digital sales) when in the IFPI reports is not recognize.

If I don't receive any answer like my last comment, I will be bold in removing that, because I'm trying to notify here first and to avoid an edit war. If anyone is oppose, please comment here to reach a consensus. Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 15:56, 3 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

QQ Music is not a 'fan source' such as Mariahcharts, atrl or UKMIX. It is the largest provider of legal, paid music & streaming in China, with its owner, Tencent, having a 70% share of the music market in China, as confirmed by the 2017 IFPI Global Music Report (see page 28).

Also, as mentioned above, the so-called certifications awarded by QQ Music are by no means official and are just a way of recognizing sales milestones within that single platform. --Mαuri^’96 “everything and nothing always haunts me…” 00:42, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks for your answer. Be used to that question because many user will use as example this article that you created. Its pretty normal when the article is public and here is linked to other articles. With your permission, I also put your answer on Katy Perry's album. You're welcome to comment and save those albums that have the QQ reference. Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 20:17, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Misdunderstand between album & song sales[edit]

QQ Music can sell album by whole album and each track, the numbers are listed by album or song sale depend on how it is sold. This list is totally wrong by misunderstanding the sale of many albums (most Korean OST and Western albums) - they sell songs, not album copies. Song sale: 首. Album sale: 张. If you want to make a rank, rank them base on revenue like QQ Music. I removed albums with song downloads sale number and separate Li Yichun's EP sale (if you combine her sale then BIGBANG's MADE EPs should be done too) - Kuraxmol (talk) 12:06, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Kuraxmol: At the moment, the figures and this list by itself does not appears in the albums of Western-artists or it is quickly remove in their articles by the veracity. Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 02:09, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Mauri96: Please read bellow and please don't add wrong sale into the list.

How Long albums should be[edit]

Saoju classifies releases with 5 or more tracks as albums but on western charts, it is 4 songs, this is going to lead to confusion for the readers of this page, can we somehow come to an agreement wether albums should have 4 or 5 tracks, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Octopus288 (talk • contribs) 09:01, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Teresa Teng[edit]

Source from Xinhua says Teresa Teng's 1983 album Dandan youqing is best selling album for Chinese with 5 million album sales as of 2008. I think it should be included for #1 best selling physical album in China as mentioned in this source. And sorry for wrong editing. https://web.archive.org/web/20150610201713/http://www.yn.xinhuanet.com/ent/2008-08/04/content_14015572_2.htm Arorapriyansh333 (talk) 13:59, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]