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1963 Explosion, Oulu, Finland[edit]

In 1963, a factory exploded in Oulu, Finland. It killed 10 people for sure and is usually said to have shattered 'thousands' of windows. It is referenced, in Finnish, for instance in http://suomenkuvalehti.fi/jutut/kotimaa/jarkyttavat-muistot , search for 'Räjähdyksiä 9.1.1963 Typpi Oy:n (nyk. Kemiran) Oulun tehtaiden räjähdyksessä ...' Suomen Kuvalehti is a reliable and well known Finnish magazine. I'm not sure if good English language sources exist. Should this be added? Matti Nuortio, Oulu, Finland (talk) 21:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It would be here, but it only killed 10 people, the explosions here are at least 200 deaths. maybe on a more comprehensive list, but on this one, no. PakistinianHurricane (talk) 19:17, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Large explosion in North Korea[edit]

A few years ago there was a large explosion with many casualities in North Korea. I remember hearing it on the news but can't recall any details. It is not in the list but it sure was big enough to be included. Anyone who knows enough to add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.227.58.24 (talk) 16:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I actually don't know. I know what you're talking about, the Ryongchon Disaster, but I believe it only killed around 50 people. PakistinianHurricane (talk) 19:19, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pontecagnano rail disaster?[edit]

In the Rail Disasters list, shows

100–140 – Pontecagnano train disaster, Pontecagnano, Italy,1944

I cannot find any information about that even on books about italian railways. I guess this could came from an early assessment of victims of the Balvano Disaster (much higher on the list). --Jollyroger (talk) 10:43, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

probably, but even if it did happen, it doesn't belong, with less than 200 deaths. PakistinianHurricane (talk) 19:20, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

USS Saratoga ferry accident: Would it qualify to be here?[edit]

On December 22, 1990 a ferry in Haifa, Israel was carrying crewmen of the aircraft carrier USS Saratoga (CV-60) back to their ship from port when it sank killing 21 of the 102 sailors on board. This would technically have been during peacetime as Saratoga was deployed on Operation Desert Shield, which was the buildup to the Desert Storm invasion of Iraq a few weeks later. At any rate, the vessel that actually went down was not the Saratoga but an Israeli ferry that I don't know the name of, or if it even had one. I would think this would qualify if we're still including sinkings that far down on the casualty scale, which we seem to be. Just wondering if that would be something that could be added?

Moerster (talk) 05:09, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

again, maybe on the more specific lists, but on this general one, no. For maritime on this list, it has to have at least 500. PakistinianHurricane (talk) 19:21, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion for a new entry in Explosions[edit]

Death toll 48, 46 injured.

5 June, 1942, Elwood, Illinois. Joliet Arsenal explosion. Mishandling of anti-tank mine fuses caused assembly line to detonate.

Source: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2001-06-07/news/0106070366_1_munitions-joliet-arsenal-monument

65.241.18.25 (talk) 19:45, 24 September 2012 (UTC) Valiant Dancer[reply]

Ok I'm starting to think that this talk section isn't just for the general accidents and disasters by death toll list. Anyways, it probably does on a more specific list, but this general one is a no. PakistinianHurricane (talk) 19:23, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Major cleanup[edit]

I feel like a major cleanup is in order. A lot is wrong, but the only things I fixed for now are a few of the dates, and a couple of other small things. In short, the death tolls listed for many of them are wrong (at the very least according to their articles on this website), and for many of them, it changes their ranking. Also, there are several things that should be on the list, but aren't, and several entries that I feel like they should not be on the list, but are. To name two that I feel shouldn't be, the Cinema Rex and Kanungu Church Fires were both deliberate acts (I think, the former definetly was, the latter is rather complicated). I may go more in depth on this at another time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PakistinianHurricane (talk • contribs) 22:49, January 14, 2024 (UTC)