Talk:List of Disney Channel original films/Archive 2

Double Asterisk

The page doesn't state what the double asterisk on two of the movies denotes. Anyone know? Murder1 10:26, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

iTunes Availability?

Itunes availability?!?! that seems sort of random to me. if we have that then why dont we have a Walmart availability or Bestbuy availability, etc. It seems like its only function is boosting sales at the itunes store and therefore it has no place on wikipedia.71.174.200.210 (talk) 23:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

2009?

Does anything here pass the WP:CRYSTAL sniff test?

Princess Protection Program (2009)[3]

Hatching Pete (2009)[4]

High School Musical 4 (2009)[5]

I'm particulary curious about HSM4, since there will be a big-screen version with the graduation of the original cast? WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 19:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Preferably, I'd like to wait until a movie comes out to add it to the list since even though a movie may be scheduled for release and have a source, it might be cancelled at the last minute and therefore leaving wikipedia with misinformation. I think a planned section may be necessary, but only if sources are provided. Grk1011 (talk) 20:21, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

If the movies are indeed cancled, we could simply go about removing them from the list, however, as they were announced as such, they are currently considered Disney Channel Original Movies. If they weren't announced to be such, I would agree with their removal, but even if they're in production or unreleased, they are literally still Disney Channel Original Movies. A "Planned" or "Upcoming" section would be sufficient as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.124.182.32 (talk) 02:03, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Only add them once a month is known. Once that is known, we know that it will for sure be released in that year. But until then, the date could be changed. --Yankeesrj12 (talk) 03:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

The planned section works for me only if the movies are sourced; if not, they go.Grk1011 (talk) 19:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Looking at it again, I'd say that any movie that is not released yet should be under planned. Grk1011 (talk) 23:00, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

They shouldnt be there at all. Without an exact month for all we know the project could be cancelled. Don't put planned. Is it that hard to wait until a couple months? --Yankeesrj12 (talk) 00:06, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

that was originally my plan, I'm sure most of us could wait, it doesnt bother me, but the anon users come out of nowhere and add the movies. The planned section was our way of having them without crystal balling because planned doesnt mean that it will be finished. Grk1011 (talk) 00:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

The "Planned" section is well warranted due to the fact that they currently are considered to be Disney Channel Original Movies, whilst they may not be in the future, they may rather be removed as of that point. For now, however, they are indeed planned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.37.3 (talk) 01:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

You can still wait. --Yankeesrj12 (talk) 01:11, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Wait until when? WP: Crystal Ball is no longer even a problem, as we've removed any correlation the projects have to dates. Currently, there is absolutely no problem with having a "Planned" section, I do not see why you are so set on not including specifically planned items, they are Disney Channel Original Movies, they were defined as such at Disney Channel's 2008 Upfront, and across other media; since this is the article for Disney Channel Original Movies they should be added, shouldn't they? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.37.3 (talk) 01:22, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I know they have all been announced, but HSM 3 hasnt even been released yet and we already want to put HSM 4? To me that makes little sense. I mean it cant be that hard to just wait until a month is released. If we let this go, then we have to let almost anything go. Plus these planned movies can always be cancelled. One example was a movie last year (I cant remember the title, but it was announced at the same time as Dadnapped last year) it was planned, and after that nothing was ever mentioned again --Yankeesrj12 (talk) 02:15, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Which would then warrant its removal from the planned section. We can't keep protecting and reverting the page forever. We need to realize that whatever we do, people are going to add these movies to the page no matter what. We need to think of the best way to incorporate them into the article. So far, the planned section is our best idea. Grk1011 (talk) 02:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Would announced make more sense then planned? --Yankeesrj12 (talk) 02:44, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

It's pretty much the same thing. I'd say keep with "planned". Grk1011 (talk) 01:10, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

This just opens a can of crystal worms, or trades one can for another, imho. Announced or planned a year or more in the future is still the future. A meteor could strike Disney, or they could decide to completely change their schedule and not make any of the movies they've announced. I still think waiting until a movie is at least in production should be the condition for addition to the list. We'll see how it goes, I guess. --Ebyabe (talk) 00:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Alright. I leave for a few months an a war breaks out here. So I gotta throw my 2cents in. For the movie to be listed here, it should either have already begun airing commercials for it on DC, or be accompanied by a Reliable Source that confirms the movie with an airdate. Otherwise it is WP:CRYSTAL. I have no problem with having upcoming movies on here as long as they have been proven by either commercials on DC announcing them, or a reliable source confirming their air date. --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 16:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Motocrossed is NOT L.G.B.T.!!!

She did not really become a boy, she pretended to be a boy. just because she cut her hair, and dressed like a boy, that does NOT make her transgender! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.221.166 (talk) 19:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree, but I tried bringing that point up on that talk page and the response was that was exactly what made it L.G.B.T. Not sure what to do here. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 15:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Available as digital download

Can someone provide more information for the "Available as digital download" section? Such as where you can download them from? For An Angel (talk) 14:46, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Mainly itunes, but most sites where you can buy movies as well. It does not say in the article because that would be borderline advertising. Grk1011 (talk) 15:00, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

It seems pointless to have that section without linking to where you can download them. I'm not saying we should do that, but what is the point of having that section the way it is? It doesn't really provide any useful information. At the very least it should have references. For An Angel (talk) 22:32, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Camp Rock, 9 million for premiere

• Camp Rock received 9 million viewers, so I just thought I'd put that there. The other websites also say 9 million viewers.LAUGH90 (talk) 20:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

FOR THE LAST TIME: That source is false!

The source that claims Return to Halloweentown had 7.8 million viewers is false. Look at the discussion below. It actually had 7.5 million.

I am pretty sure this incorrect. I've found many sources that say HSM2, Cheetah Girls 2, and Jump In! are the only movies to outnumber High School Musical and that Return to Halloweentown only got into like the 6 millions. I will try and locate these sources but I decided to post this first so it can be up for discussion. Snoborder93 01:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

This one says 7.53 and the main page for Return to Halloweentown states that it had 7.6 million, although no source is there to verify it. Snoborder93 01:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

This says 7.8 --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 03:43, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay so it's conflicting reports. Neither one is more reliable than the other. The source that claims 7.8 million is the only one I could find online that Return to Halloweentown surpassed High School Musical. Earlier versions of this page report 7.6 and the August 27 issue of People Magazine reports that HSM is the 4th most watched DCOM premiere, while HSM2 is the 1st. Snoborder93 22:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I removed it until we figure out which source is correct. --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 06:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Nevertheless, the article that cites the ratings for the others up there does not cover the most-viewed DCOMs, just the records of the ones in that time period. If you notice, they aren't "the top most-watched", they're all the ones from January 2006 - January 2007. Snoborder93 01:35, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

This also states 7.53, which is not 7.6 but still lower than HSM. This as well says 7.53. As does this. So since I have found several articles that agree that the ratings for the premiere of Return to Halloweentown is 7.53 million, I think it's only fair to say that the source stating it had 7.8 million is incorrect (although it is correct on the others). So unless someone opposes it, I think we should list it as the fifth most watched. Snoborder93 18:53, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. When you list it, it would be good to include at least 2 of your sources this way it has enough verification to back up the claim. --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 19:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay I will. Snoborder93 04:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

24.23.218.106 (talk) 21:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

no halloween movie on disney channel this year.

what happened way is there no halloween movie on disney channel this year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.202.141.150 (talk) 02:06, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

There is it's called Dadnapped, I know it doesn't look like it's a halloween movie. Like the book character turning into a monster!

Dadnapped isnt a real halloween movie it comes out in end Novermber... GinoKolle (talk) 18:25, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually Jason Earles said that the movie will come out in Early 2009. Thanks :D - Alec2011 (talk) 03:30, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I thought it was "definitely coming out on October 10" since thats what everyone kept saying and changing the page to. That is why we need to always source things because that date was obviously made up. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 04:04, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Nope, Jason Earles in an interview said that the movie was coming out in early 2009. Thanks :D - Alec2011 (talk) 21:07, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't denying 2009, just releasing some anger about all the October 10 additions I've had to revert in the last 3 months with people saying that Disney said so, obviously not! Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 21:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I know, I was just saying. If the people didn't have a reference, you shouldn't believe them, and also they would've been airing trailers for about two months before the premiere anyway. Thanks :D - Alec2011 (talk) 23:41, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

halloweentown 5 she,s the witch?

ok can some one tell me how and where you guys and girls found out about a halloweentown 5 when disney has not said anything about a halloweentown 5? —Preceding unsigned comment added by --67.8.98.89 (talk) 12:05, 16 October 2008 (UTC)67.8.98.89 (talk) 02:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

• It was somewhere on the internet but it was just a rumor.

By the way, for the people who own this page: maybe an idea to clean this discussion up? GinoKolle (talk) 15:22, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'll archive it in a sec, though I object to anyone owning the page. Removing unsourced information and rumors is what we are supposed to do as it is not encyclopedic. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 15:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

thanks guys.--67.8.100.155 (talk) 03:17, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Top Rated Movies

Can we please limit this section to either top 5 or top 10? Top 16 is a random number. We can't just keep extending the list every time someone feels there movie should be on there. If we do that, we might as well list the ratings of every DCOM out there. --Malevious Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 00:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I took out number 16 which was Twitches to make it a top 15 for now; it didn't have a source anyway. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 15:55, 11 November 2008 (UTC)