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A fact from Leonid Gobyato appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 February 2006. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Russian officer Leonid Gobyato is credited with having invented man-portable mine mortars?

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I have nominated your article on WP:DYK. Can you provide references supporting the claim about the first mortar? abakharev 12:07, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He seems to have invented миномет. What is the correct English translation? "Trench mortar"? --Ghirla | talk 13:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the correct translation would be mortar. Just mortar, see: Mortar (weapon). I have a photage of Gobyato's mortar of 1904, and I have to tell you that it looks exactly like the modern-day mortars in that article, but the quality is rather poor.

Regarding Gobyato being the first to invent the mortar, I think I should probably modify the article as he was the first to invent the modern, man-portable mortar, not that kind of middle-age siege canons that were also called mortars.

ISasha | talk 17:56, February 16, 2006 (MSK)

Can you provide the photos and your list of reference materials on this? I don't know this claim to be false, but it's also not known or acknowledged in general in the west. I would like to review the source materials. Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert 19:37, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, the main reference used in the article is The Soviet Military Encyclopedia (Советская военная энциклопедия) in 8 volumes, article on Leonid Gobyato taken from volume number 2. Another reference used is Encyclopedia of Taganrog edited by Vladimir Timoshenko, 2nd edition. ISasha | talk 9:42, Feb.17,2006 (MSK)

I have also uploaded the image, which is rather poor quality, I am not sure if this should be inserted in the article, I will look for some better quality photos or drawings. There are inscriptions on that mortar shell 1904 and Port Arthur. ISasha | talk 10:21, Feb. 17, 2006 (MSK)

Thanks. Can you provide the URL for the image? Georgewilliamherbert 19:40, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry, here is the image of the mortar shell: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Gobyato_shell.jpg And let me say that again, the quality of that image is low, I hope I can reupload it soon with the drawing or photage of the mortar itself. ISasha | talk

1:36, Feb. 18, 2006 (MSK)