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Quarantine of earnest but unverified paragraph citing phantom map[edit]

The following paragraph has stood for over a year with "this contemporary map" never having been supplied:

Visitors today often mistakenly believe that the hill after which Barren Hill was named is that rise in elevation upon which St. Peter's Church sits (on Church Road between Ridge and Germantown Pikes). This is not true, as shown on this contemporary map, drawn by a participant in the Battle of Barren Hill, which identifies "the" Barrenhill as being southwest of the church, probably in the region known today as "Barren Hill Road," a winding, wooded, and treacherous road which connects Lafayette Hill to Conshohocken.

The contribution seems earnest, but the citation of the map begs the question, where's the map? There's been plenty of time (>1 yr) for the anonymous editor to supply it. I was going to rewrite the paragraph to avoid citing the map, but as I thought about how to do that, it essentially comes down to inserting weasel words, e.g., "Some people say that […]" etc. Before I turn it into that, I'd sooner just remove it from the article, and quarantine it here pending a reference or the supplying of "this contemporary map".

— Lumbercutter 22:46, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Open challenge: take this grain of truth and figure out how to present it in a neutral, encyclopedic way[edit]

What's interesting about this edit is that it added to the page what is essentially the truth, yet, obviously, we have to revert it because it's POV, unencyclopedic, etc. But this makes me wonder about the (ever-evolving-over-the-decades) cutting edge of what you can't say in our culture. So my open challenge to everyone is to figure out a way that this grain of truth could be represented here (either in the text of this article, or via what other articles this article's text links to) without being just vandalism. Surely there must be other articles that could be linked to besides silver spoon, but I can't think of them at the moment. Hope someone can rise to the challenge. PhilaRegion1062 (talk) 18:39, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]