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Did you know... that the Kolmer Site preserves the remains of a village where the French and Michigamea interacted in modern-day Illinois?

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Dubious claim for Lasalle[edit]

Jolliet and Marquette explored the Mississippi in 1673.[1] La Salle, who did claim it all for New France did so several years later, not even getting to and exploring the Mississippi until 1680.[2]. Alanscottwalker (talk) 00:45, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

De La Salle, Discovery, the Mississippi, and the Ohio River[edit]

Primary sources contradict the claim that De La Salle was the first European to “discover” these waterways. While the use of the word “discover” is dubious at best, and the use of a word such as “recorded” might be more appropriate, the main point of discussion I want to bring up follows. Jacques Marquette recorded his expedition from the Jesuit mission at Green Bay to the Mississippi. He arrived at the Mississippi by way of the Wisconsin River (Meskousing) and travelled downriver with his companions below the confluence of the Ohio River (Ouaboukigou). He recorded his encounters with several native peoples including different groups belonging to the Illinois Confederation. Marquette describes descending to 33 degrees latitude on the Mississippi where he encountered the Mitchigameas.

My recommendation is to edit the current language to reflect these descriptions made by Father Marquette in 1673. The source I have found for this information is an apparent translation of Marquette’s writings found in Louisiana Historical Collections. New York. 1850. Vol. 2. 279-297. It is elsewhere found in William Joseph Seno’s compilation “Up Country” and doubtless elsewhere. Note: the Wikipedia entry on De La Salle also credits Marquette with encountering these waterways first. Q.macrocarpa99 (talk) 17:31, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]