Talk:Kiss discography

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Bad discography[edit]

Am I the only one that thinks sorting it by band members, and not chronologically, makes it very confusing? Chronologically would be much better, IMO. Which band members there was can also be there, but it has to be chronological, IMO. /Hugoflug 21:29, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I don't see the reason for ordering it like that. Straight chronology would be much better, of course with each album accompanied by some notation as to who appears on it. Ferdinand Cesarano 20:31, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • whats up with this all talk no action thingy??Lord revan 08:06, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm, it is listed by order of release date. What discography are you all looking at? It just happens to list band members too. --Cholmes75 13:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

to Cholmes -- The discography is divided by lineup, and then by order of release date only within that sub-heading. For instance, the Gene/Paul/Ace/Peter set of releases comes first, followed by the Gene/Paul/Ace/Eric C. set. So, Psycho Circus (1998) with Criss is listed before Music From (The Elder) (1981) with Carr. There is no reason for this. Ferdinand Cesarano 18:28, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
to Lord Revan -- Sorry about the "all talk no action". When time allows, I will try to get on this. Ferdinand Cesarano 18:28, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well I have no objection to removing the "lineup" organization. When I wrote the article I broke it out by category, as is done with most discographies. --Cholmes75 22:08, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I went ahead and made the change. I also linked the discography to the new KISS template I created. --Cholmes75 20:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Title of (Music from) The Elder[edit]

This title should not have quote marks around the words The Elder. The album's title is (Music from) The Elder; the never-made movie would have been called The Elder. The title of a movie or an album ought to be shown in italics, not in quotes. Ferdinand Cesarano 20:31, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The originals?[edit]

Shouldn't "The originals be listed in with the other compilations? 24.108.68.4 02:15, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Yes. I'll get around to it, unless someone else wants to give it a shot. --Cholmes75 16:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Solo albums are not Kiss albums[edit]

In the VHS video KISS EXTREME: CLOSE UP, both Paul and Gene state that the solo albums have the Kiss logo on them to represent unity since they were going through a tough time back then. Peter and Ace had threatened to quit the band, so in order to keep them in the band, Gene and Paul suggested they all do solo albums, put the Kiss logo in the corner, and dedicate them all to each other. Cover art does not determine whether it is a solo album or not. The credits do. The members of Kiss did not work together in any way at all musically ont hese albums. The logo is more to say "Gene Simmons OF KISS" as opposed to a KISS album named "Gene Simmons." The band members have confirmed this may times. "The Best of Solo Albums," released in 1978 but discontinued, was released as a Kiss album, not the individual solo projects. Also, Gene mentions in A&E Biography that "Asshole" is is first SOLO album since 1978.

  • If they are not KISS albums, someone better mention it to KISS, since they are listed as such on their website. They are also listed as KISS albums on allmusic.com. And according to the rather comprehensive book The Kiss Album Focus, the albums all counted against KISS's contract with Casablanca Records. Therefore, I will again revert the edits made to all the appropriate pages. In the future, I ask that you bring things like this up BEFORE making changes. --cholmes75 16:08, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If they were not KISS albums, they would not have been released on the same the day, nor would they all have identical packaging throughout. --User:3locbox —Preceding comment was added at 17:48, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • These are KISS albums, as it was concluded, so why aren't they on the list? It doens't matter that no other member played on one's album. With that criteria in mind, Unmasked shouldn't be a kiss album since Peter Criss didn't play on it, and Psycho Circus, Dynasty, Creatures of The Night, etc. too Arg2k (talk) 15:03, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Concluded by whom? This topic of discussion has been dead for a year and a half. The solo albums were just that, solo albums that members of the band did as a side project. They all made solo albums, and the fact that all of them were members of a well known group doesn't automatically make those projects were connected to the band. Other members of well known bands have done solo projects on the side without any connection to group projects, like Keith Richards and Mick Jagger for example. Also, none of the solo albums aren't listed as part of the KISS RIAA certifications in the RIAA database. I know that Simmons' and Criss' solo efforts were at least certified Platinum, and they're listed seperately from the group's RIAA certifications. The solo albums done by members of KISS are just that, solo albums that were not connected to the group KISS.Odin's Beard (talk) 22:22, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • they are solo albums but still marketed, released and promoted as kiss albums. Once again, with that criteria in mind Psycho Circus is not a kiss album...or maybe Carnival of Souls is not a kiss album since it was released after the reunion and touring of the original lineup. Arg2k (talk) 22:45, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Each member used their association as members of a famous, successful rock band to jointly promote their own solo efforts. Whatever the line up for a KISS album, all members of the band at the time are credited for contributing to the album. For each of their solo efforts, no other member of the band participated in the creation of those solo efforts. They use their collective star power to push and promote the albums sure, but a marketing ploy is just that, a marketing ploy. Each album was an individual creation of each member. Each chose different songs, different musicians to play, different producers, etc.Odin's Beard (talk) 02:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kiss Live in Las Vegas DVD[edit]

Is this an official release? Racklever 08:54, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

promo music videos[edit]

They clearly made a promo video for "Love 'em, Leave 'em," why else would it be included on one of their home video collections? Repkow (talk) 20:51, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Solo[edit]

How was the order of the solo albums chosen, as they were all released on the same day? Tim Long 05:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I included them by catalog number. As for Casablanca, I'm not aware that they ordered them in any particular way. --cholmes75 (chit chat) 11:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

would that really be important anyway? Lord revan 22:24, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jungle[edit]

What is the source for the claim that "Jungle" reached #8 on the U.S. charts? I'm not finding anything to substantiate this unlikely-sounding claim. wikipediatrix 04:20, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Check out the allmusic.com entry for Carnival of Souls. --cholmes75 (chit chat) 13:30, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jungle hit #8 on the mainstream rock charts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.87.82 (talk) 17:41, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Greatest Hits[edit]

In 1997 a compilation album named 'Greatest Hits' was released by Mercury Records. Does anyone know if this was an official release and should be added or not? I think it was only distributed in the UK. 86.131.19.86 20:09, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree with the above user. Because this Wiki page applies to all of the English-speaking world, Aussie & UK releases should be included. Also, there are a number of recent compilations missing from the discography. Icon 2 is one of those. Repkow (talk) 20:54, 6 April 2012 (UTC) The greatest hits was released in Britain only to coincide with the reunion tour shows there.[reply]

Remasters[edit]

Which is the last album released as part of the remastered albums? Was it Crazy Nights?

Mark —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.166.63.135 (talk) 18:23, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes the last remastered album was Crazy Nights — Preceding unsigned comment added by Holeinmygrind (talk • contribs) 22:12, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Combine Studio + Live albums[edit]

Since the live albums were so commercially important, they're a useful way to track the band's commercial success. It'd nice to see it as one piece. Not many bands had live albums so successful in comparison to their studio efforts. (The Elfoid (talk) 00:28, 18 November 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Clean up?[edit]

I use this page often for a "Today in History" list that I use in my classroom. I see that it now comes up that it is in need for "clean up". I don't really see why. I have checked all the realease dates, they are accurate. What needs cleaned up? I may add album producers when I have time if there is no objections. user3locbox —Preceding unsigned comment added by 3locbox (talk • contribs) 17:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Best of Solo Albums[edit]

I own an album called "KISS: Best of Solo Albums". Why is this not mentioned here ?71.71.192.231 (talk) 04:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC) This was an album the was released overseas and not part of the Kiss catalogue.[reply]

every time i look at you[edit]

i bought this kiss tape a at a yard sale with only 2 songs on it -every time i look at you and spit, so i think it might be single. Should it be on here?Д narchistPig (talk) 05:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks kind of messy[edit]

I think the albums should just be listed, maybe with release dates and other important information. There's really no need to have the track listing on this page, since all of the albums have their own articles. Another possibility would be to make a table, like with the singles? 85.76.253.210 (talk) 20:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RIAA[edit]

I've removed a number of innaccurate RIAA certifications from the article. And yes, I know that some are going to say that they were taken from the Kiss website. The problem with that is that some artists have been known to inflate sales and certification figures and that's the case with several albums on the band's website. I've listed the album certification from the RIAA gold and platinum database. There isn't going to be a more reliable source on RIAA certifications than the RIAA itself.Odin's Beard (talk) 23:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Singles[edit]

I was looking through the singles and I know those charts positions are inaccurate. Psycho Cirus is their only single that ever reached #1, but the page claims that like 7 made it to #1 which I know is inaccurate.--Comeondontshootme (talk) 14:48, 3 July 2008 (UTC) Psycho Circus made it to #1 on the mainstream rock charts, their only single to do so. They have only 2 top ten hits in the United States being Beth and Forever, which hit #7 and#8. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.87.82 (talk) 17:38, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks![edit]

I had this page book marked and used it for the precise release dates, now it is all messed up with only the the year for a release date. Now I have to find a different web page with that info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 3locbox (talk • contribs) 14:14, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would also like to say thanks - thanks to all the people who screwed this discography up. Removing the wiki, adding unsourced 'facts' and adding pointless material. You must realize when you add a piece of crap edit to an article, someone else will at some point have to fix it up, revise if it is actually true and go through sources. You remove the wiki, example: Album italics, and someone else has to fix it up. There is too many people that come here with no consideration for the rest of us, make blind edits, things become far worse than they already are. People have to stop demanding their own little piece of crappy information is added. Close rant. k-i-a-c (hitmeup - the past) 10:03, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Australian singles[edit]

The current source does not record charts for before 1988 - the Australian chartings for before then need to be added. k-i-a-c (hitmeup - the past) 01:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Something is in Question[edit]

Either Worldwide sales or the certifications are incorrect. It just doesn't add up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.58.57.10 (talk) 01:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC) If you look at the certification dates for most of the Kiss cds, they have not been updated in years, so its hard to figure how much they have actually sold until the riaa does an audit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.87.82 (talk) 21:14, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tommy Thayer's Left Nut?[edit]

I'm sorry, but this kind of garbage does not belong. Yes, it has been reported KISS will release a new album in 2011. Whether or not it happens is anyone's guess, but the album certainly has not been named yet, and would NEVER be called something as asinine as Tommy Thayer's Left Nut. Get real...209.254.200.110 (talk) 22:07, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The Elder[edit]

The Elder was certified gold in Norway.--Progenie (talk) 14:26, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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