Talk:Ken Hind

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Hind's part in Mrs Thatchers fall[edit]

I rather think this should be included as it showed Mrs Thatchers powers of concentration were no what they should have been in the last days of her premiership as well as Hind's most famous, but would like peoples opinions, especially of Kahuzi as the creator of the page, rather than me dropping it in straight away. Here is what I would like to insert into the article:

In 1990, at Question Time following Sir Geoffrey Howe's resignation speech, attacking then Conservative Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, Hind was the first Conservative MP called and offered a very supportive question to her, in reply Mrs Thatcher "thanked the honourable Lady for her support" and was then unable to go on due to the house breaking up on all sides to a great amount of laughter that lasted several minutes, much to Ken Hind's embarrassment. The net result was to further undermine Mrs Thatcher's position as Prime Minister and to further encourage a challenge which duly emerged a few days later.

Opinions please Galloglass 13:53, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No objections to this; though I must say I can't see any record in Hansard of Ken Hind asking a question during PM Questions on 15 November 1990, two days after Geoffrey Howe's resignation speech. Am I looking in the wrong place? Kahuzi 15:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It actually might have been on the day of the speech itself, the 13th of Nov although I don't think so. Galloglass 15:40, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can only find two occasions when Ken Hind spoke in the House during the month of November 1990. Neither were questions to the Prime Minister. I've also scanned through all the times when the Prime Minister spoke over the same period and can't see the embarrasing incident you describe, involving KH or any other member. Sorry. Kahuzi 16:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hansard can be rather notorious for leaving out embarrassing incidents. Still if there is no reference to it its better to leave it out until something can be found to back it up. Cheers for looking up the details though, much appreciated. Galloglass 16:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lengthy Quotes[edit]

This article needs some radical pruning to remove what appears to be an attempt to quote every word he's ever said in parliament. Small snippets are ok when used in summaries, plus sources, but no-one is going to use Wikipedia to read entire speeches. Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 10:04, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed more of this, including some sections where it's really not clear what significance there was to Hind's involvement. A fair bit of it was also not neutrally explained, sounding like an essay written to get Hind's view on issues of the day across, rather than leading to the reader to a better understanding of the subject Hind. The same goes for the excessive detail on court cases. A lot was detail not in the sources, and they read very much like Hind's own personal summary of the case. There really is no need to explain all the details, particularly if the source doesn't. Any discussion should focus on their significance to Hind and his career, rather than irrelevant blow by blow accounts of events. The article is now approaching a more realistic size, but I accept that some of the abbreviated sections could now be better phrased and focussed. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 09:25, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]