Talk:Keeley Hawes

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Cameo in Plan B's She Said[edit]

After watching the video and finding no trace of Keeley Hawes in it, I am inclined to think that whoever added this bit of information to the article mistook Kaya Scodelario for Keeley Hawes. I have therefore deleted it, until somebody can provide citation that Hawes actually appeared in this video. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.103.9.44 (talk) 12:52, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lamest edit war ever (continued)[edit]

I support the idea that she is English, born and raised, so it's clear that this is her nationality just as Sean Connery is Scottish and Catherine Zeta Jones is Welsh. magnius (talk) 16:59, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Her Passport doesnt say 'English' does it, so British is her nationality. Stop changing it to a non recognised nationalty92.40.169.103 (talk) 19:53, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to have stumbled onto the great British-English War, but really people, this is ridiculous. Look at articles on famous British people, and you'll see that the practice on "British" versus "English/Scottish/Welsh" is mixed and inconsistent, but for God's sake, don't use some contrived circumlocution that most people have never even heard of, as a supposed compromise solution for a problem that doesn't exist. What makes Keeley Hawes unique? By this logic, we should go through every article for a British person and call them "British-English", "British-Scottish", "British-Welsh", etc. It's absurd. Anyway, if certain obsessed users swoop in once more to vindictively append "-English", then I'll just go with the flow and remove the "British-" part. Pick one or the other, people; it just doesn't flipping matter! --Lazar Taxon (talk) 04:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Watch out the BNP supporting English nationalist editor is back. Hawes is British not English, Kentish or Londonish UK is the Soverign state it doesn't say English Citizen on her passport does it.
Yes, I'm the model of a BNP English nationalist, seeing as I'm Irish (though I've no idea where the whole BNP thing came from anyway). Check out Ridley Scott, Keira Knightly, etc. Thanks! Fin©™ 17:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm completely neutral on the question of whether to call her British or English. --Lazar Taxon (talk) 06:29, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yawn! why has this started again, why has someone seen fit to change her nationality when it is obviously going to provoke an edit war with the scots or welsh User:Lazar Taxon summed up how stupid it was to change it in the first place. England is just an administrative region of the UK and not an internationally recognised nation therefore it can't be her or anyone elses nationality under international law. It is usually dim Americans that confuse English with British. Is she a pre union historical figure or ever expressed an English National Identity like Sean Connery has with Scotland? also the British National Party is opposed to devolution and doesn't approve of English Nationalism so it is not a good idea to equate the two. Estragons (talk) 18:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ya, I give up, though I still think if someone's born in England then the article should state they're English (seeing as England is a subset of Britain, it's more informative to the reader). I dunno, I'm no longer bothered. Fin©™ 18:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not about nationality, it's about ethnicity! Keeley Hawes was born, raised and is living in England, so her ethnic identity is English. Every Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish actor/writer/singer/etc is staunchly referred to on Wikipedia by their ethnicity (which is considered perfectly acceptable by all), but for some reason people hate the idea of English people being afforded the same consideration. Unfair. P.S. It is really pathetic that a certain user started slinging mud about people on here being BNP supporters - a very desperate and ignorant way to try to win an argument, particularly since the BNP is against British seperatism. 79.74.77.222 (talk) 15:49, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No you are totally wrong, her ethnicity is Anglo Saxon or using Official UK Government census categories White-British (The other two being White-Irish or White-Other! There are black English people too you know. England does not have its own Parliament, Head of state or Prime Minister; it is an administrative region of the United Kingdom and is not recognised as a sovereign nation by the UN. US citizens are not listed by their administrative region {i.e. State} instead of their nationality, so neither should British citizens in an international encyclopaedia.

Yet again this edit war has flared up, I thought that we sorted this out 6 months ago!andi064 T . C 20:52, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More: After a long edit war Wikipedia:Nationality_of_people_from_the_United_Kingdom ( i.e don’t change nationality listing to make a WP:Point) was invoked and a compromise found. From my viewpoint: I fail to see why people from the USA are listed by federal nationality not States and why some UK nationals are by regions? All this does is act like a red flag to pro nationalists/seperatists. The sovereign state should be the only nationality on WP. Ie Canadian, French, Australian & BRITISH etc. andi064 T . C 21:03, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, there is a big difference between a state and a constituent country, which is what England, Scotland, Wales and N Ireland are. And we don't know Keeley Hawes is "Anglo-Saxon"; she could be Brythonic, Norman, Germanic or Celtic by heritage, but whichever it is she still comes under the term English people. There is no need for this war to rage on and on, and I'm certain it will come to an end when people just respect the fact that in Britain there is a preference for people to refer to themselves by their constituent country, alluding their ethnic/cultural identity (which is not equivalent to referring to oneself by state or city), and that it's not fair to ban the English identity from Wikipedia but allow the Scottish, Welsh and N Irish ones. Equality for all! P.S. Yeah I am familiar with the fact that there are black English people too, particularly since my father happens to be one of them! 79.74.2.20 (talk) 23:34, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(Coming in from the RFC.) I'd say use "English" only because it's more specific and so slightly more informative. But I don't see any particularly strong arguments for either side, and I don't think mine is especially compelling either. ~YellowFives 05:10, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(comment as requested at RFC) As she was born in England then she is English, cant see anything wrong with her being described as an English actress it is factually correct. MilborneOne (talk) 22:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No matter how her ethnic identity is referred to, if you come to the conclusion that it is English, she is "an English acress" and not "a English actress".

Model?[edit]

Since she is essentially modelling in the Boots makeup ad, isn't she also a model? --LeedsKing (talk) 00:34, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Line of Duty[edit]

Keeley Hawkes had a starring role in Line of Duty series 2. Shown in early 2014. Tonyj01 (talk) 00:01, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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