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Chronology

Is this article chronological? I feel the sections are in need of reorganization. Cosprings (talk) 18:43, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

John Steinbeck's stay in Bruton

John Steinbeck stayed and wrote in Bruton, England for some months in 1959. According to an exhibit in the town's museum, he was enthralled by Arthurian legend and began but did not complete a retelling of Thomas Malory's 'Le Morte d'Arthur'. Sources: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/booksblog/2011/jul/19/john-steinbeck-somerset ; http://www.brutontown.com/index.cfm?C_id=52 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.74.187.27 (talk) 11:14, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

American Travel Writer Category

This category should be added: [Category:American travel writers]

For his work on "Travels with Charlie"

Danihan (talk) 03:37, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

 Done--JayJasper (talk) 16:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

typo

Is this a typo: "at the Hamilton family gravesite at in Salinas" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.86.155 (talk • contribs) 04:29, 31 July 2013

 Done Dave.Dunford (talk) 11:02, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2014

Remove the phrase "he was gay" at the bottom of the Notes section. 63.238.16.2 (talk) 18:39, 27 February 2014 (UTC) Walter Weinzinger Flagstaff, AZ

Already done. That was removed immediately by ClueBot. Favonian (talk) 19:09, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2014

Page says "He Was Gay" at the end of the Notes section... 98.207.159.87 (talk) 19:02, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Already done. That was removed immediately by ClueBot. Favonian (talk) 19:09, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Information mistakes

The information given on the right-hand side facts contains some mistakes, for example, it says that he was born in 1813 and died in 1998 at the age of 96. And in the main parragraph of the article it says he was born and died on February 27, 1902 – December 20, 1968. Back again over to the right hand side facts it also mentions "Of Mice and Boys" as one of his notable works. Where I believe it should be "Of Mice And Men" It says his occupation was of a plumber and track star. I don't know anything of the life of John Steinbeck, but even if he did worked as a plumber in his life, I doubt it should be mentioned in this particular place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.213.14.202 (talk) 02:15, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting the misinformation. A partial correction was made within 30 minutes; the vandalism was completely removed in 2 hours 10 minutes. - Neonorange (talk) 02:47, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Misinformation

The article says John Steinbeck was born on the 26th of February, whereas he was acctually born on the 27th. (As stated in the book "Of Mice and Men") — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.153.192.30 (talk) 12:29, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

@82.153.192.30: Good catch! The date was changed a month ago by a fly-by account and has now been reverted. Favonian (talk) 11:42, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Regarding citation #8's accuracy.

I am wary of the source used to cite Steinbeck's religious beliefs. I can not access the sources that Gilmore cites in his report (I may be lacking the software needed to access them), and I do not believe the writing should be trusted given its numerous spelling and grammatical errors. Are his religious beliefs detailed in any of his biographies? 24.56.13.231 (talk) 18:37, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

The citation is not precise; it can eventually be traced to Expository Times, an academic journal behind a paywall. The citation needs to be fixed; perhaps the best course is to replace it with a more accessible WP:RS: "John Steinbeck, Episcopalian: St. Paul’s, Salinas, Part One" Steinbeck Review Vol. 10 No. 2, 2013 pp 118—140 published by Penn State Press, abstract at [1]. — Neonorange (talk) 20:44, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Template:Nobel Prize in Literature

I must say I'm astonished that anyone should wish to remove this sensible and obviously relevant template from any author to which it applies. The prize is major, the list sharply-defined, the honour unquestionable. Perhaps people might discuss such things first in future. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:36, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Per BRD I removed that (by mistake) with The Grapes of Wrath and Of Mice and Men which I do object to. We shouldn't be cluttering biographies with templates like that which include popular culture irrelevancies and trivia. The templates to the major prizes, of course, are fine. Victoria (tk) 13:48, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

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Error re: visit to USSR

2.3 para 5 - "In 1947, Steinbeck made the first of many[quantify] trips to the Soviet Union"

This is incorrect.

In 'A Russian Journal' Steinbeck states that he first visited Russia in 1936 [although it was actually in 1937 with his first wife, according to the notes in the recent Penguin edition of this book (I am sorry, I do not have my copy to hand to give a better reference)]. A memorandum in the first part of his FBI file, dated 30 June 1943, following an interview with Martin Ray, states: "Following the sale of one of Subject's [Steinbeck's] earlier books, Subject and his wife [Carol] made a trip to Europe, visiting Sweden and Russia." [pdf, p31, 

https://vault.fbi.gov/John%20Steinbeck/%20John%20Steinbeck%20Part%201%20of%202/view ]

The journey he made with Robert Capa in 1947 was therefore his second journey to the USSR.

For reference, the second part of Steinbeck's FBI file [pdf, https://vault.fbi.gov/John%20Steinbeck/%20John%20Steinbeck%20Part%202%20of%202/view ] includes an article [p47] from 'The Worker', dated October 29 1963, which states: "The author of 'Grapes of Wrath' is making his first visit to the USSR since the middle 1940's."

As far as I can see the FBI's files contain no other reference to his journeys to Russia/USSR (although portions of the files remain redacted, whilst others are illegible).

Merry Christmas,

Yrs etc.

Scrooge — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.208.127.158 (talk) 20:39, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2019

Please note comment regarding John Steinbeck's visits to the USSR in Talk, as 2.3 para 5 of this Wikipedia article is incorrect. 51.6.192.110 (talk) 11:16, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 14:14, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Er, is not Steinbeck's own work, 'A Russian Journal', a reliable source? Public FBI records, which themselves quote publicly available journalistic records? Penguin's foreword to their 1999 edition of 'A Russian Journal', written by Prof. Susan Shillinglaw, Director of the Center for Steinbeck Studies at San Jose State University? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.6.192.110 (talk) 08:00, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Edit request, 6 Feb 2019

Please add "Steinbeck was inducted into the DeMolay International Hall of Fame in 1995"[1] per WP:CATV. 2600:8800:1880:90F:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 04:35, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:27, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://web.archive.org/web/20160107072455/https://demolay.org/halloffame/

Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2019

Change: * The Steinbeck Quarterly journal, a full-text searchable journal published from 1968–1993 by the John Steinbeck Society of America that focuses on Steinbeck criticism and scholarship

To: * The Steinbeck Quarterly journal, a full-text searchable journal published from 1968–1993 by the John Steinbeck Society of America that focuses on Steinbeck criticism and scholarship Amtownbsu (talk) 16:34, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done Gulumeemee (talk) 04:31, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2019

After the sentence, "He wrote Alfred Hitchcock's movie, Lifeboat (1944), and the film, A Medal for Benny (1945), with screenwriter Jack Wagner about paisanos from Tortilla Flat going to war." please add "Author Harry Sylvester was asked by Hitchcock to turn the script into a short story in 1943, which was published by Collier's in November of that year.[1]" Both Harry Sylvester and Collier's have linkable Wikipedia pages. HadleyOnFire (talk) 16:55, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

 Question: @HadleyOnFire: Can you explain why this information should be added to this article? WP:NOTEVERYTHING says that the article should be a summary of accepted knowledge regarding the subject, not a complete exposition of all possible details. Steinbeck wrote a movie, and someone else later came along and wrote a short story. Put information about the adaptation into the article about the film, mention it in the articles about the authors, but why here? ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 17:18, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Response: @ElHef: That's a fair point. The information belongs best on other pages. HadleyOnFire (talk) 01:19, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

  1. ^ Sylvester, Harry (November 3, 1943). "Lifeboat". Collier's: 16–17, 52–58.

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2020

Lol — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.18.48.13 (talk) 14:18, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Using a Tommy Gun?

Please provide a citation for the assertion that Steinbeck captured ‘German and Italian prisoners using a Tommy Gun.’

Steinbeck’s ‘Once Upon a War’ says categorically that ‘I certainly did not fight.’ War Correspondents in WWII had no military training, were not armed, and took no part in action except to observe.

It seems that this refers to the capture of the Luftwaffe radar station on the island of Ventotene, which Steinbeck describes in a series of articles in ‘Once Upon a War.’ He says nothing about his own participation, although his description of the action seems first hand. 220.253.18.193 (talk) 07:28, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2020

Good Afternoon, I would like to request to edit this so I can add what I know to this site for others to benifit from. Thank You. TheBossOfEverythingThereIs (talk) 15:43, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done You haven't said what you want content you want to add to the page. Note that we don't add what we know - we add what we could verify by referencing reliable sources. GirthSummit (blether) 15:47, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2020

John Steinbeck did not study in American Literature except for required classes He attended Stanford in the study of Marine Biology Left Stanford American Literature was not his primary field of study 2601:CE:8202:8680:91DC:DDCC:1511:520 (talk) 05:05, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 08:31, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Unpublished work?

It's been in the news recently that Steinbeck wrote an unpublished werewolf novel called Murder at Full Moon (source). I'm new to Wikipedia editing - does anyone have suggestions on where to place this in the article? I'm not sure if it should go in the bibliography (even though it hasn't been published and likely won't be anytime soon), and/or somewhere towards the beginning of his career. OmgWhizBoyOmg (talk) 02:07, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

What's the point of The Times critic's quote in the section of his death?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I see no relevance. Not about that specific critic, but any critic's opinion about his work in the section of his death?

I agree, and object to the inclusion of opinion, especially from later critics, in so many Wikipedia articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:44B8:3102:BB00:D1F:DB42:DCD8:1ABA (talk) 09:46, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

"the only museum in the U.S. dedicated to a single author"

This claim is dubious without qualification. E.g. https://www.hemingwayhome.com/ TheCycoONE (talk) 03:49, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

‘He had written to his doctor that he felt deeply "in his flesh" that he would not survive his physical death, and that the biological end of his life was the final end to it.’

Which is precisely the reverse of the belief he incorporated in ‘East of Eden’. So what didSteinbeck believe? Or are the obiter dicta of an ill and dying man to be treated with caution? --2001:44B8:3102:BB00:4DAB:86DD:5768:3797 (talk) 08:25, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Notable Relationship with Robinson Jeffers - Semi-protected edit request aug. 22

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I think the personal section would be improved by noting Steinbeck's relationship with fellow Californian modernist, Robinson Jeffers. In a Letter to Elizabeth Otis, Steinbeck wrote, "Robinson Jeffers and his wife came in to call the other day. He looks a little older but that is all. And she is just the same.’” --- Page 557 Jackson Benson's The True Adventures of John Steinbeck, Writer. New York, Viking Press, 1984.

This connection helps further emphasize the cohesiveness of the Californian modernist scene.

I'm requesting permission to edit. CDavisJ (talk) 14:13, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:34, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Please do not reopen the request. Per the template This template must be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y". It is not for asking for something in general to be included, or requesting permission to edit. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:41, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Link

The link to Panama the city under the Writing section should be to Panamá_Viejo and not the country of Panama. The article is semi-protected and I cannot edit it myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EditingJohn (talk • contribs) 16:10, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done Grimes2 (talk) 16:28, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Murder at Full Moon update

This page might need to be updated https://archive.org/details/murder-at-full-moon/ SillyGoose4077 (talk) 13:54, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

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