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why have the title as "Jack the Lad Swing" I know that's what JLS stands for but EVERYBODY knows them just as 'JLS'. I get the impression someone's showing off by putting Jack The Lad Swing as the title, like saying "I know their name. I'm special." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.128.96.140 (talk) 19:07, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because the article is written for everyone, not just people who know what JLS stands for. I didn't know what JLS stood for. I also suspect that there are other things with the acronym "JLS", so using the full name neatly avoids a disambiguation. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 19:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The band's name is JLS, not Jack the Lad Swing. That's what it stands for, but it's not the band's name. The page should be moved to JLS (band). anemone│projectors 11:44, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think it was decided on the deletion discussion page that 'Jack the Lad Swing' would be a good title. Personally, I like the title as it is now; I hate using those brackets if it can be avoided. Pyrrhus16 12:37, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
But they're called JLS, not Jack the Lad Swing. We shouldn't use the wrong name just because you don't like disambiguation. anemone│projectors 14:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Until there's been explicit confirmation that they're not called 'Jack the Lad Swing', then I think it should remain. From what I've seen, Jack the Lad Swing is their title and 'JLS' is only an abbreviation of their full name. Like when Michael Jackson is referred to as 'MJ'. Pyrrhus16 16:23, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure if they were called Jack the Lad Swing, they'd have been called that all the way through The X Factor. The only time it was mentioned was when they were asked what JLS stands for. What have you seen that I haven't? anemone│projectors 18:28, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The sources that I have seen suggest that Jack the Lad Swing is their full title, with JLS merely being an abbreviation. Until there is a source denouncing that, then I think the title should stay as it is. Pyrrhus16 18:54, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What sources? Also, the article says "Jack the Lad Swing, more commonly known as JLS". Wikipedia says we should use the most common name for article titles. See WP:NCCN and WP:NCON. I think most people would expect to find the article at JLS (band) as well. anemone│projectors 19:47, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The page was moved by someone who obviously agrees with me, but moved back again due to no consensus. Can we try to reach one? AnemoneProjectors (what?) 15:13, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I guess we can hold a three day straw poll. After three days, the outcome will be revealed. If it's a tie, I will concede defeat and move the page. This all sounds rather dramatic but it should be fun, lol. The !voting begins... now! No canvassing, lol. :) Pyrrhus16 15:31, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move the title to JLS (band)

  • Move per my comments above! AnemoneProjectors (what?) 15:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is what they are known as. In addition, there is no source that they are actually called "Jack the Lad Swing" 12bigbrother12 02:40, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Keep the title as Jack the Lad Swing

Neutral

  • Abstaining for now. I'm veering towards "JLS (band)", but I'd like to see references for "Jack the Lad Swing". I'd like to see references regardless of the outcome of this !vote, but I may base my vote on the refs if they're particularly compelling. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 17:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This reference uses Jack the Lad Swing. Many sources will refer to them as 'JLS', but that doesn't mean it's their full title. Pyrrhus16 17:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, thanks. My preference is for the common title, which I should probably have stated earlier. Deciding which of the two is more common is likely to be... interesting ;-) I'll have a root around Google and see what pops up. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 17:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

JLS are awesome i dunno wot ur all complainin about thier name Its thier choice asnd its up 2 them so stop giving em grief —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.159.213 (talk) 13:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Given that when they first auditioned they were asked "Who are you?" and they replied "JLS." we can say that is their name.86.133.181.150 (talk) 14:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the dispute ended the minute they released a single under the name JLS. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:51, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Pfft, tell that to Prince! 81.129.107.189 (talk) 07:51, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Prince changed his name, JLS did not. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 14:00, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

After all this rubbish if you just search JLS and look at their offcial site on google the site title is "Jack The Lad Swing" so we should of kept it to what it originally was it was only changed because of the little fan girls thinking their right :O —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.3.133.79 (talk) 01:24, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the point in bringing this up again, but a) they release all their material as JLS, and b) everyone knows them as JLS. See WP:COMMONNAME. Just because that's what JLS stands for doesn't make it their name. AnemoneProjectors 01:28, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One Shot[edit]

Since "One Shot" has now charted, editors may want to request a deletion review for recreation of the article, as the page has been protected from being created. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:54, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Record Producers[edit]

At the beginning of the song Everybody in Love, it says 'J J J J JR' which signifies that Beluga Heights produces this song. This is not indicated in this article. JackSliceTalk Adds 02:37, 29 January 2010 (UTC) is amsing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.215.136.196 (talk) 16:43, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NME awards[edit]

JLS weren't awarded the Worst Band award at the NME Awards as stated by the article. It was in fact the Jonas Brothers (http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/49955) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.0.102 (talk) 12:32, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Ericajhiggins, 14 June 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} Oritse Williams-


Full name - Oritsé Williams

Born - West London hospital 27th November

Star sign - Sagittarius

Parents- jamaican/trinidadian

siblings- 2 sisters, 4 brothers


Inspirations - Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, Tina Turner, Usher, Neyo, Justin Timberlake, Sisqo, Prince, ginuwine, John Legend, Boys2men


History- JLS is the brainchild of Oritsé Williams, after sleepless nights working trying to find the members and advertising through the streets and all music shops , schools and universities etc.

Oritsé use to busk with friends performing music on the streets of London and on the back of buses, trying anything he could to get noticed. Knowing he had no past musical theatre or any commercial training he felt he had to grind to get the opportunities he wanted, he loved singing on the live circuit but his desire was to be making pop rnb music in the charts. Also his mother was detiorating from an illnees that developed called Multiple Sclerosis and in an attempt to find a cure himself and his younger brother Temisan Williams came up with a masterplan, which was Oritsé would become a musician and use the money for medical research for a cure whilst Temisan becomes a medical professional and builds an equipment with the money to cure their mother. Oritsé looked after his mother more or less full time from the young age of 12.


Ericajhiggins (talk) 05:05, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question: I'm sorry, where in the article does this fit, and what sources do you have for it? {{Sonia|ping|enlist}} 09:15, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. -- /DeltaQuad|Notify Me\ 10:45, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oritsé Williams[edit]

JLS is the brainchild of Oritsé Williams, after sleepless nights working trying to find the members and advertising through the streets and all music shops , schools and universities etc.

Oritsé use to busk with friends performing music on the streets of London and on the back of buses, trying anything he could to get noticed. Knowing he had no past musical theatre or any commercial training he felt he had to grind to get the opportunities he wanted, he loved singing on the live circuit but his desire was to be making pop rnb music in the charts. Also his mother was detiorating from an illnees that developed called Multiple Sclerosis and in an attempt to find a cure himself and his younger brother Temisan Williams came up with a masterplan, which was Oritsé would become a musician and use the money for medical research for a cure whilst Temisan becomes a medical professional and builds an equipment with the money to cure their mother. Oritsé looked after his mother more or less full time from the young age of 12.


2 awards

MS Inspiration Award- Oritsé Williams- Won

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUUDwVIVDVM

Bliss Magazine sexiest boy in a Hat award- Oritsé Williams- Won

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy27_OgDqk8 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericajhiggins (talk • contribs) 05:09, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

'number-one'?[edit]

Doesn't take a hyphen. Edit please. --80.192.21.253 (talk) 19:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done AnemoneProjectors 23:43, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

um..[edit]

shouldn't there be a page for the club is alive.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seventerra (talk • contribs) 22:18, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not until it passes the notability guidelines (i.e. enters a national singles chart) AnemoneProjectors 00:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar[edit]

Was this article written by one of JLS' tween fans or something? The grammar is terrible! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.138.86 (talk) 15:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Not only that, but the article could do with some referencing to support some of the claims. Whole sections in some cases read like they are a collection of random "facts" of dubious origin. As the article is currently protected, I am unable to flag these myself. 81.137.209.237 (talk) 10:06, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Children in Need?[edit]

What happened to their single "Love you more" being the song this year?--Cooly123 00:42, 30 October 2010 (UTC) The boys are named: Aston Merrygold Oritse Williams Marvin Humes Jonathan Gill (JB) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.211.212 (talk) 18:56, 16 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 29 January 2012[edit]

i would like to change the picture of jls to this more updated picture http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=jls+2012&um=1&hl=en&biw=1008&bih=441&tbm=isch&tbnid=akGgGnNTPwyHBM:&imgrefurl=http://thatgrapejuice.net/2011/11/hot-shots-jls-strip-2012-calender/jls-2012-2/&docid=miV1xNZSailSmM&imgurl=http://cdn.thatgrapejuice.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/jls-2012-2.jpg&w=1023&h=687&ei=n00lT9KmJ8a48gOF7_mtBw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=236&vpy=144&dur=1550&hovh=184&hovw=274&tx=103&ty=81&sig=116475119198402210459&page=1&tbnh=115&tbnw=146&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0 Fernh123 (talk) 13:48, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done, we can't just paste images from other websites, they need to be free to use per our Image use policy, to be uploaded to Wikipedia or commons, and tagged with the correct copyright information, see Help:Files--Jac16888 Talk 14:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 12 April 2012[edit]

It states that JLS released their single 'Take a chance on me' on the 4th of November. I do believe this is wrong and that it was released on the 6th of November. I specificly remember it being released on my birthday. Thank you.

Shadefiona6 (talk) 20:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 00:39, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in JLS[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of JLS's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "sun":

  • From Jonathan Benjamin "JB" Gill: "JLS story in their own words", The Sun (UK), Nov 6, 2009, http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2716800/The-JLS-story-in-their-own-words-Day-one-Jonathan-JB-Gill-and-Orits-Williams.html
  • From Eton Road: The Sun: X Factor’s Marcus Collins backed by boyfriend David Heath
  • From Dolly Rockers: "Dolly Rockers enrage celebs". The Sun. 2009-06-01. Retrieved 2009-06-05. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  • From List of The X Factor finalists (UK series 8): Connolly, Lucy (17 September 2011). "''The Sun'': X Factor's Marcus Collins backed by boyfriend David Heath". London: Thesun.co.uk. Retrieved 2011-11-11.
  • From Marcus Collins (singer): Connolly, Lucy (2011-09-17). "''The Sun'': X Factor's Marcus Collins backed by boyfriend David Heath". London: Thesun.co.uk. Retrieved 2011-11-11.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 06:17, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On hiatus?[edit]

In the infobox and under Jukebox, there is a statement that saids JLS is going on a year long hiatus to focus on solo projects. I googled this information and I couldn't find a source to back this statement up. If this is true, please provide a citation to a reliable website stating JLS is on hiatus. If no citation can be found, I request all hiatus statements be removed from this article because I believe this statement is false because JLS will be doing a summer tour together through Septemeber. Thank you. 66.235.48.124 (talk) 00:08, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template renamed[edit]

{{XFactorContestants}} has been renamed {{The X Factor contestants}}

There is no need to change the article, because template redirects work fine. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:26, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Farming career of one of the members[edit]

Should it not be mentioned in the article that one of the members, as emphasised on Countryfile on April 14 2014, is thinking of going into a career in farming? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 14:56, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I could be wrong but I think that the member in question is J.B. Gill - if any one knows about any agricultural work that he has done, it could help to expand the article. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 23:18, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it's JB. According to this week's Heat, he has a ten-acre chicken farm in Kent and has bought a deer farm in Scotland. –AnemoneProjectors– 13:04, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oritsé in Stepping Out[edit]

This makes him notable for something outside of JLS, so potentially he could have his own article. Just saying ;-) –AnemoneProjectors– 17:43, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but now the only non-notable member is J.B.? Unreal7 (talk) 23:24, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Also I noticed something else strange. For some reason the band members' names are in Category:JLS albums and Category:JLS songs, even though neither template is listed in their article. Unreal7 (talk) 00:22, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When do they actually split?[edit]

They're currently on This Morning, their last TV interview, and said that their last ever performance will be at the O2. I see from the O2's website that they're performing there on 22 December. So is this their last performance? Do they officially split on that day? –AnemoneProjectors– 11:52, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like they do split tonight based on their twitter, once the concert is over. –AnemoneProjectors– 20:21, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2014[edit]

The reason I'm willing to edit this page is because, JLS haven't lasted from 2008-2013, they will last forever and a day. Ollie444777 (talk) 18:22, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 13:16, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Clarification[edit]

I am writing to this page regarding the lead sentence of the article.

Shouldn't we write 'are' instead of 'were' in the lead sentence as it is possible for all 4 members to re-unite and start recording music again or have I been mis-understood?

86.152.141.191 (talk) 10:41, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think the word 'were' is used for bands not active at the moment (like JLS who are currently inactive). You (86.152.141.191) were wise to talk this through and 'were' is preferred in the lead sentence for now. Iggy (talk) 22:13, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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