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October 28, 2017	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on December 3, 2017.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that show creator Tony Jordan wanted HolbyBlue to emulate the American police dramas Hill Street Blues and NYPD Blue?

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Merseybeat[edit]

Is it worth mentioning that this show is similar to MerseyBeat? (Unsigned -84.66.254.131 8/5/2007)

I don't know what MerseyBeat is as Ive never seen it, but this is your opinion and is not important for the article. Thanks anyway.Alec1990 20:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I do (remember it), and I should think it may be worth mentioning... D B D 00:14, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong title[edit]

I'm not quite sure why the article title has been CamelCased. All references by the BBC [1] and Radio Times [2] clearly show the title is "Holby Blue"; two entirely separate words. Unless anyone can show me a reason why this error shouldn't be corrected I'll move it and the related 'list of' in the next day or so. --AlisonW (talk) 23:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not an error at all, it's how the show was originally styled. Although press packs related to the show's launch are no longer available on the BBC website, the show's official homepage still contains references to it styled as such [3] and many media outlets continue to refer to it by that name [4] [5]. Frickative (talk) 00:23, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zoe Lucker[edit]

Hi

Does anyone know whether Zoe Lucker will reprise her role as Kate Keenan in series 3? As Kate left John in the last episode of series 2, it is unlikely that she will make another appearence. George.millman (talk) 22:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

John Snr.[edit]

Shouldn't Kenneth Colley as John Snr. be added to the list of past characters? He is at least as important in the series as Mandy French. George.millman (talk) 20:56, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Axed[edit]

I've updated it to say that the show has been axed by the BBC with refrencing from [6]. steveking89 20:40, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shame its stopped, it never was as good as The Bill though. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 20:51, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BBC announcement ref incase anyone wants more than Digital Spy [7] steveking89 21:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Change of statement[edit]

Hi

A few months ago you had this statement on this article:

It was confirmed on the 5th April 2008 that a 3rd and 4th series of the show will be produced. It is yet unknown whether the show will continue after that.

If this was the case then WHY THE HELL HAS IT BEEN SCRAPPED! George.millman (talk) 17:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because it was not referenced, I imagine. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 17:53, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge[edit]

Following Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Frickative/Holby Blue, a draft was merged in as the current version. Feel free to edit as needed now. — xaosflux ^Talk 05:57, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have made sure everything from the previous article is still in the current article, with the exception of the following unsourced information:

"Actors spent some time shadowing uniform and detective officers at Surrey Police's Woking station, and following an in depth visit to the station's custody centre, it is rumoured that the Holby police station cell block is based on the real thing at Woking."

and "[Filming took place] at an old MOD site near Longcross. It is also based at Brunel University, West London, where the external shots of the police station were filmed. Scenes were also filmed in Egham, Surrey. Shooting was also in Woking, Surrey, during the winter in the town centre."

Anemone Projectors 11:29, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

I've just seen that this has been nominated for GA and the main contributor is away, so this is poor timing on my part. But I think the lead needs some more work, as there's nothing about the setting, plot, or cast and characters. Readers know how the show was conceived and that it received a mixed reception from critics, but they have no idea what or who it's about. - JuneGloom07 Talk 18:57, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, JuneGloom07. When I wrote the lead before nominating this article, I tried to keep the lead as short as possible. If I was to add setting, plot, and cast and characters into the article, would it make the article's lead too long, or not? ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 12:24, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@ElectrodeandtheAnode and JuneGloom07: I just remembered HolbyBlue is a good article nominee and found this question from JuneGloom07. I thought I'd add my opinion on it. I think JuneGloom07 has made a good point - the lead should include something on plot, setting and cast and characters. Four paragraphs is the recommened size for a lengthy article so you could add this information to the first paragraph to avoid making the lead too big, while still adding extra information. Hope this helps, Soaper1234 - talk 20:09, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:HolbyBlue/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 17:53, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

General[edit]

The en dash must be replaced with an ordinary hyphen for words such as "newly−proposed" and "most−watched" for example. Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 19:22, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

"HolbyBlue (also known as Holby Blue) is a British police procedural drama series, which aired from 2007 to 2008 on BBC One – on Tuesday nights in 2007 and Thursday nights in 2008." - The latter part of this sentence should be removed from the lead. Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 10:24, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@MWright96: quick question (just want to make sure I get rid of the right bit first time), is it everything in bold you would like removed? ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 20:02, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@ElectrodeandtheAnode: Yes, should have made that point more clearer. MWright96 (talk) 10:21, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Remove the duplicate wikilinks of Zöe Lucker, Kacey Ainsworth and Jimmy Akingbola in the bottom paragraph. Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 20:08, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"Times critic David Chater" - Change this to David Chater from the same newspaper. Also do the same in the critical reception sub-section. Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 20:08, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Plot[edit]

"Kate is then hired as a receptionist at the police station," - employed Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 20:12, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"Kate hands in her resignation, but John manages to convince Kate to remain at the police station." - Kate tenders her resignation, but John manages to convince her to remain at the police station Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 20:12, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"John and Luke rescue Kate and the children, but are shot in the process. They both survive." - John and Luke rescue Kate and the children; athough they are shot in the process, they both survive. Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 20:12, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"learns of Lucy's boyfriend's criminal reputation and forces the pair to break up." - separate Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 20:12, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"It later transpires that John's father was jailed for abusing prostitutes." -imprisoned Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 20:12, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ratings[edit]

"Despite a decreased 23% audience share," - Despite a 23% decrease in audience share, Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 20:16, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"viewership had declined 4.10 million and a 21% audience share," - viewership had declined to 4.10 million and a 21% audience share Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 20:16, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Accolades[edit]

"During its lifespan, HolbyBlue was nominated for six awards, of which it won zero." - reword to HolbyBlue was nominated for six awards during its lifespan, of which it failed to win any. Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 20:18, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- To add: "HolbyBlue" should be in italics as it is the name of the show. Soaper1234 - talk 21:00, 27 October 2017 (UTC) Done - thank you for pointing that out Soaper1234, I completely forgot to italicise the word. ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 23:14, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

All of The Times references lead to the homepage of The Times Literary Supplement rather than the designated article. Please find an archive link for them. Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 11:40, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Do the same for the two The Stage citations that have not been archived. Done ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 20:47, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Going to put this review on hold until the reviewer has addressed the issues put forward. MWright96 (talk) 18:28, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

All issues addressed[edit]

@MWright96: I believe have addressed all the issues put forward. ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 11:41, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@ElectrodeandtheAnode: Yes you have. Can now promote to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 12:21, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fantastic! Thank you very much for taking the time to review the article. ElectrodeandtheAnode (talk) 12:31, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.