Talk:History of the Catskill Mountains

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No references[edit]

Article does seem generally accurate from what little I've read of the standard history by Alf Evers, but no sources? What's up with that??

67.208.235.205 (talk) 01:18, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Evers is pretty much the source for what's on the page. I wrote most of this back in the mid-2000s, when we weren't as fanatical about sources as we are now. If you want, feel free to fill it in. I'm too busy otherwise to be likely to go back here and pick up where I left off anytime soon, unfortunately. Daniel Case (talk) 05:02, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request for info[edit]

hi i need a lot of information about the catskill mountains—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.56.205.17 (talk • contribs)

Confusing sentence[edit]

I'm not quite sure what is meant by the sentence that begins "In his later years Hardenbergh was helped greatly by Robert Livingston..." I left it in tact but it doesn't make any sense. Livingston bought nearly half of Hardenbergh's patent. If anything he helped himself. Americasroof (talk) 05:11, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to Evers, Hardenbergh was more than happy to take on Livingston as a partner in fighting land claims and finding tenants. Daniel Case (talk) 15:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Right Robert Livingston?[edit]

There's a lot of Robert Livingstons out there. The article as currently written links to Robert Livingston (1688–1775). However Robert Livingston (1708–1790) is the third Lord of the Manor and would seem the most logical choice for having the financial power to buy 1 million acres. Americasroof (talk) 05:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's the right one. It was ages ago when I wrote this, and it's one of the articles I always say I'll get back to eventually. Daniel Case (talk) 15:25, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Dan. I was up there all last week (exploring locations for NJ09). Here's some more links that muddy the waters. http://livingstonmanor.net/Timeline.htm says the land was purchased in 1750 (and sold by 1780) by Robert Livingston ("grandfather" of Robert R. Livingston). The grandfather i.d. would mean Robert the Elder but he died in 1728. This site http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/state/his/bk10/ch3.html says the land was purchased in 1790 by Robert Livingston and others and encouraged settlement. Of course the Livingstons we are discussing were dead by that point. Finally there is link http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nysource/mmm/maps02.html which describes Robert R. Livingston dividing the land in 1795. So all this gives rise the possibility it was Robert Livingston (1746–1813) who was Robert R. That would sort of foot with the tone of the histories in which you are expected to "know" who Robert R. was and the last mentioned Livingston is perhaps the most famous. Americasroof (talk) 22:58, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]