Talk:Francesco de Angelis (sailor)

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Confusing statement[edit]

The lead currently says "He was the first and so far only non-angloamerican skipper to win the Louis Vuitton Cup in Auckland in 2000 with Luna Rossa (ITA45)" which given phrasing and lack of punctuation could be said to be clearly true. There was and will surely only ever be one skipper to "win the Louis Vuitton Cup in Auckland in 2000 with Luna Rossa". You don't even need the Luna Rossa bit, there was only one skipper to win the Louis Vuitton Cup in Auckland in 2000. Maybe this means to say "to win the Louis Vuitton Cup" which he did in Auckland in 2000 with Luna Rossa. Except that this statement is clearly not true. The very first 1983 Louis Vuitton Cup was won by a team skippered by John Bertrand (sailor, born 1946), an Australian i.e. clearly not an anglo-american. It was later won by several Kiwis and maybe an Australian (depending if you count the 2017 Louis Vuitton Challenger's Trophy as a Louis Vuitton Cup). Perhaps this means someone from the anglophone world. Alternatively looking at the edit history, maybe this is referring to skippers who won the Louis Vuitton Cup for Luna Rossa only. I don't know and for something complicated like this, I don't think relying on a machine translation of the Italian source will work, so someone needs to clarify. Nil Einne (talk) 13:06, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]