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Forrest (advertisement) Proposed Deletion

Forrest (advertisement) Proposed Deletion

Hi folks, I've never really interacted much with you guys, but I have been around here on-and off for many years.

That said, I don't necessarily object to the proposed reasons for deletion, but I have as of recently added more citations, and I do intend to continue to find more coverage in books, magazines, scholarly articles if permitted to do so, in order to allow this article to grow.

In terms of notability, I think one can find it notable based on a few factors, the first is as a piece of film making, as it acts as a rare replication of the type of films and film qualities produced by the likes of F.W. Murnau and other German Expressionist Film Makers of the 1920's, via its use of modified Arri Cameras and digital alterations to match the older style of those type of cameras.

The next factor, is based on the resurgence of Gothic themes, in which this advertisement acts a decent homage, as the Judderman, the tale, and the various elements strewn throughout this 1:13 ad, homage the type of tales, styles, and themes that one might see, or would see in Gothic typed tales as the advertisement focuses on the mystery and the suspense of both who the Judderman is, and what the drink the Judderman has does, supernatural elements are prominently featured in that of the Judderman himself, as well as in that of the other elements of the commercial, rapidly growing tree limbs/roots, a crow that spins its head around, the Judderman's lair and those in it, and the traveler's transformation into a puppet, there is an omen in that of the poem read by Alicia Suszka Fielder, "Beware the Judderman when the moon is fat...", and there is metonymy in the various lines of the poem read during the commerical, including "But schnapps though sweet, has teeth, my dear,/And sharpened ones at that", and "With sweetened talk of schnapps and Metz/And the deliciousness of Judders.", which allude to the notion that the Metz drink is, like teeth, sharp, and still has a kick to it, the "Judder" in question, and to the fact that the traveler is being led into danger by the Judderman himself, via his promises of a "sweet and delicious drink".

The third is as an example of the type of work both Enda McCallion and Srdjan Kurpjel have produced, as both figures do have other notable work in each of their repertoires but as an early work of each of theirs and perhaps a well crafted work, even as an advertisement or commercial campaign, this advertisement presents McCallion's directorial capabilities in some of the noted techniques employed in it, and in the realm of animation, which McCallion did at London's Glass Studio, I can and probably should add this in as well, and for Kurpjel it can be stated that this advertisement prominently features his musical talents and musical capabilities, in terms of creating older styled music for certain means.

The fourth and final factor, is based on its appearance in Channel 4's "The 100 Greatest Scary Moments" where it is cited as #31 on that list, due to its many attributes of it, but also do to its role in scaring children who watched it at the time, which can be argued to be a noted aspect of the advertisement' sense of fear and impact on children as a whole. I will see if I can both watch and find a video of this clip, in order to gain a better perspective on its importance in this aspect.

All that stated, because of its film making techniques, its resurgence of Gothic style storytelling, its example of McCallion and Kurpjel's directorial and musical capabilities, and its place on Channel 4's "The 100 Greatest Scary Moments", where its role on children and its impact of horror or fear are presented in a more mainstream way, I believe this article has a determined notability.

If permitted to however, I will continue to look for more articles and references onto to this work and the aspects of it that I have mentioned here, particularly those of the film making techniques and Channel 4's documentary information as well.

---Sincerely,

stryfeling-- Subject/headline — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stryfeling (talk • contribs) 00:04, 23 February 2021 (UTC)