Talk:Foggia Airfield Complex

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Coordinate error[edit]

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The coordinates need the following fixes: 41°51'24.05"N 15°18'11.47"E

88.34.117.213 (talk) 09:02, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but you're going to have to say more than that. Which field? — TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 01:44, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The coordinates identified above are for a site very near my home town of Lesina (FG), actually they are very close to a spot where the 318th FS had a mechanic shop. I just wish people would do a bit of research and ASK! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.235.81.118 (talk) 20:00, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinate error[edit]

I see a coordinate error as well. Giulia Field is said to be "was located approximately 6km northeast of Cerignola, 41°18′27.36″N 015°56′41.61″E". I have reason to believe that Giulia was located at 41°18'01"N 015°50'57"E, about 5km northwest of Cerignola, on the Strada Statale road to Foggia (SS16) . I offer the following:

1) coordinates I've suggested show the Torre Giulia winery, which was used as HQ for the 459th at the time (McCarty 1997, pg 43). The SE end of the runway would have been maybe ~100m south of the winery, running NW from there.

2) aerial image of the airfield (http://www.ronaldv.nl/abandoned/airfields/IT/puglia/foggia.html#Giulia) shows features consistent with the winery (entitled "gp. hq") and the SS16 roadway, just SW of the airfield.

3) If you look at the Corps of Engineers map of Giulia, on page 39 of (McCarty 1997), it matches the aerial image quite well, and shows directions on the roadway to the south as "←Foggia 31km" and "Cerignola 5km→". The roadway connecting Foggia to Cerignola is SS16.

I have generally outlined the airfield and surrounding squadron encampments at http://wikimapia.org/#lat=41.2993111&lon=15.8475879&z=14&l=0&m=b&v=8

Please consider editing this page, or at least discuss why it should keep its current location. The only reason I see for its current location is the "Giulia" point shown on the 1945 map of bases (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:15thafmap-foggia-italy.jpg), which I believe to be in error, based on the information given above. The "Stormara" point is much closer to the correct location of the Giulia field.

Sources: McCarty, Lyle. Coffee Tower: "a history of the 459th Bombardment Group in World War II". V., Ronald. "Abandoned and Little-known Airfields". http://www.ronaldv.nl/abandoned/airfields/IT/puglia/foggia.html#Giulia. Accessed 04 November 2012 • contribs) 14:33, 4 November 2012 (UTC) Beelster (talk) 14:38, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

San Severo Airfield - coordinate(?)[edit]

After looking at google maps (sattelite view) I believe I have found San Severo Airfield (or at least some old airfield)!
I see clear signs of an airfield at: 41°42'21.43"N 015°25'12.68"E

The article says the location is undetermined:
"San Severo Airfield[16]
Abandoned, was located approximately 40km north-northwest of Foggia, *coordinates to city centre* (Location undetermined)" — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeronimoDK (talk • contribs) 18:58, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

San Severo again (incomplete)[edit]

One founds information that 60 Squadron SAAF also was stationed there, 1943-45 (further details here: link, specified link) --2001:A61:2B66:7E01:DCCD:9F03:5393:54A6 (talk) 09:43, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

World War I training field[edit]

At least one airfield near Foggia was used as a training facility by the US Army Air Corps in World War I. The US Army didn't have sufficient facilities to train aviators, so they sent recruits to train in Italy. (One such recruit, who for a period commanded one of the camps in Foggia and then was put in charge of all training of American aviators in Italy, was Fiorello La Guardia.)

I don't know which of these airfields was the one used to train American aviators, but I suspect it may be Foggia/Gino Lisa, as there is a memorial to the American "Foggiani" aviators at that airfield today.

If anyone can confirm that, and wants to add a mention of the WWI history to this article, here are some reliable sources which discuss the "Foggiani": [1] [2] [3] [4]

There is also discussion of the Foggia airfield and the Foggiani in The Unsubstantial Air: American Fliers in the First World War by Samuel Hynes. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 20:44, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]