Talk:Elizabeth le Fey

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Sourcing in Controversies section[edit]

So I saw some activity at this article while watching recent changes and I'm concerned about the sourcing in the Controversies section. Most of the section is sourced to twitter, with one statement sourced to Youtube, and a few to Pitchfork. Most of the Pitchfork content seems ok to me, but both Youtube and Twitter are rated "Generally unreliable" at WP:RSNP. The section on Twitter specifically ends with "Twitter should never be used for third-party claims related to living persons." Given that, I don't see how this sourcing can possibly be acceptable. Some of the wording (especially "Following her rampages online...") also strikes me as non-neutral. I'm removing everything but the Pitchfork content for now. I'm also removing the claim that le Fey harassed Charli XCX as that claim doesn't appear to be supported by the given source (Le Fey is not even mentioned). Pinging @StarryNightSky11, CodeTalker, and 2603:7000:DC40:99:49D9:BB3D:AD60:E3F3:. Thoughts? Am I misunderstanding something? Squeakachu (talk) 23:00, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the stuff sourced only to Twitter should be removed. CodeTalker (talk) 23:28, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Squeakachu and CodeTalker: The reverts made by me and CodeTalker are in reference to removal of content without adequate explanation, in addition I agree with both of you regarding the content sourced from Twitter as its not reliable and best off removed from the article. Best StarryNightSky11^(talk)^(cont) 23:42, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The whole controversy section should be removed as the content is being duplicated from the career section, where it's covered in excruciatingly WP:UNDUE detail. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:53, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also take a look at the copyvio report. I'd start hacking it out of the article now but I'm on mobile right now and trying to edit a large article is like playing basketball on asphalt barefoot on a sunny day. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:57, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@ScottishFinnishRadish:

Done I've removed the content based upon your findings, any questions or anything else ping me here or message my talk page. Best regards StarryNightSky11^(talk)^(cont) 00:48, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Starry, thanks a ton, but I think there's still some copyright issues in the career section where it discusses the controversy in detail. If you have an opportunity to trim that I'd appreciate it. No worries if you can't though, I'll take a closer look in a couple days when I have the time. Thanks again! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:53, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

StarryNightSky11, fixing ping. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:54, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ScottishFinnishRadish I've checked and have now removed the content as a possible violation of copyright. Best StarryNightSky11^(talk)^(cont) 00:58, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers! Thanks again. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:00, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input all, and huge thanks to ScottishFinnishRadish for checking the rest of the article and StarryNightSky11 for taking on the cleanup. It's a major improvement. Squeakachu (talk) 02:57, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No problem :) Happy to help, leave me a message if you would like me to help with any issues or improvements elsewhere Best regards StarryNightSky11^(talk)^(cont) 03:55, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]