Talk:Edward Daly (Irish revolutionary)

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Edward Daly (Irish revolutionary) article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Ireland Low‑importance

	Ireland portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ireland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Ireland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IrelandWikipedia:WikiProject IrelandTemplate:WikiProject IrelandIreland articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Biography: Military

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the military biography work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Military history: Biography / British / European / World War I C‑class

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

C

This article has been rated as C-class on the project's quality scale.

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Military biography task force
	British military history task force
	European military history task force
	World War I task force

Irish Republicanism Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Irish Republicanism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Irish republicanism and Irish nationalism related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Irish RepublicanismWikipedia:WikiProject Irish RepublicanismTemplate:WikiProject Irish RepublicanismIrish Republicanism articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Ned: Disambiguted Title & the Lead[edit]

"Commonly called Ned" is misleading or simply false.

"Edward Ned Daly" "Easter Rising"

gives "21 of about 35",

"Ned Daly" "Easter Rising"

(which includes the 21 above) gives "70 of about 161", leaving 49 of 126 for "Ned Daly" without "Edward" immediately preceding, and

"Edward Daly" "Easter Rising"

gives "143 of about 286".
Ignoring clones, we have 70 plain Ned, twice as many (143) plain Edward, and, out of 234 total, 91, or less than 39% mentioning "Ned" at all.
Calling him

Edward "Ned" Daly is fine, but there's no reason for making a bigger thing of the nickname than that. In particular, using Edward (Ned) Daly as the disambiguated name is ugly and unnatural, evokes the style of WP Dab titles too much for something that doesn't conform to that style, and is far less informative than Edward Daly (executed) (or perhaps some other equally terse title). I find "executed" attractive bcz it excludes so many other Edward Daly's (probably without the title being applicable to any other notable people), and bcz "Easter Rising", phrases that include "Irish" or "Ireland", etc. need more words to do the job.
--Jerzy•t 00:34, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Daly (Irish Republican Brotherhood)[edit]

Scolaire could you please explain why you reverted my re-direct of this article. I gave a clear rational, which is supported by the article text. I note that no comment or rational was given for this, and would like one now thanks. I have no problem with the use of WP:BRD, except when it is not followed up with a talk page contrabution. How is an editor to know what was wrong with the change in the absence of a rational or comment.--Domer48_'fenian' 13:07, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See my response at the Tom Clark talk page. --Scolaire (talk) 13:43, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be possible to move this page back to Ned Daly per Common Name. This is the name he himself used and was know by both family and friends? --Domer48_'fenian' 09:21, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It might be. It would be worth leaving this a few days to see if anybody has any views. In the meantime I am moving it back to Edward Daly (Irish revolutionary) per discussion. Scolaire (talk) 12:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conflicting Sources about place of birth[edit]

The NUI article says he was born in 26 Frederick Street while 16 Lives: Edward Daly written by his grand niece Helen Litton says it was at 22 Frederick Street.Apollo The Logician (talk)