Talk:Disenchantment (TV series)

Star billing voices

I've made the following cast ordering changes in the infobox and cast listing per MOS:TVCAST "The cast listing should be ordered according to the original broadcast credits, with new cast members being added to the end of the list.":

• Per opening credits episode 1: Matt Berry. He does not appear much in later episodes, but had starring billing for ep 1.
• Per closing credits episode 5: add Noel Fielding. He does not appear much before or after this episode, but had starring billing for this episode.
• Per closing credits episode 9: add Sharon Horgan. Horgan does not appear as a star prior to ep 9, but stays after ep 10.

AlexTheWhovian please review. I've retained the Actor as Character format and cleaned up the descriptions. If there's other information that should be added, it can be as long as it's cited somewhere or is common knowledge. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:35, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

That's correct, yes. It should be Episode 1's starring billing, with the new billing added to the end, meaning the infobox and main sections should be identical in terms of actors. -- Alex^TW 09:28, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Tie-ins

This mentions the futurama easter egg as implying that they (fry the professor and bender) are traveling through time after the universe resets, but it is easily possible that they are in the far future and the futurama crew is still on it's original forward travel, as the futurama episode clearly shows humanity regularly returning to a medieval like society over many millennia. Perhaps a bracketed comment would clarify.

Do you have a source to back this up? -- /Alex/₂₁ 11:37, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

That would be tricky.... it's a fan theory so I could give links to the song from the (futurama) episode that shows the progresion of time as humankind flows in and out of "Progress" and I can give links to sites that aid the theory, some of witch think that this show ocours in the time of "Dark-Age State" that ocoured right before the age of technology that fry awakens to as show in the original time jump from futurama s01e01..... my point is that, as with most easter eggs, until explained in canon or by creative staff it self we dont actualy know the cronological position of the ocourance, and the article seems to be more certian than it should be.

Sorry for my terible spelling. I just dont like the positive nature of the wiki when it's clearly up for dispute. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.148.144 (talk) 06:09, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Fan theories do not belong on Wikipedia, sorry. Thank you. -- /Alex/₂₁ 07:01, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Exactly, the only actual info we have is that the image of the time travel ship, the easter egg, yet the article says "implying that the three were passing through after time restarted." when it could easily be before time restarted, that seems like an un-confermed fan theory on Wikipedia to me. I feel it should be either concider multiple posibilitys, or remove the "Implications" part and simply mention the easter egg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.148.144 (talk) 17:27, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

In the episode "The Electric Princess", when Bean is searching the wreckage of the airship/dragon, she finds in one of the drawers a collection of wires. The fact that they focus on the wires for a bit I think implies that it is another reference to Futurama, where in early episodes Professor Farnsworth would frequently brag about having a drawer filled with various lengths of wire. I dunno if this rises to the level of tie in, is just a fun easter egg, or is entirely unconnected. GlitchNDaSystem (talk) 14:09, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Part 3 release

A reliable source states that Part 3 will be released in 2020. What's not easy to understand about this? -- /Alex/₂₁ 13:40, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

@Lillessrune and Dafteire: Comment here. -- /Alex/₂₁ 00:11, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

The source is no longer reliable because of the COVID-19 Pandemic.

The column is 'RELEASE DATE' there is no set release date, the content has NOT been released... how can you as an editor stand over this? It's shameful. What's not easy to understand about the words RELEASE and DATE?

@Lillessrune: Do you have anything that backs up a COVID-related delay or not, or is that your own assumption? If it is, I have reason to revert you based on a violation of WP:V and WP:OR, as you are assuming and have nothing to back yourself up. Otherwise, the content is reliably sourced (yes, reliably sourced, the source currently used has been considered reliable across thousands of articles) to be set to be released in 2020, and even is the release date is in the future, it is allowed to be included in the table. -- /Alex/₂₁ 22:19, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

https://autofreak.com/disenchantment-season-3-release-date-trailer-cast-plot-and-all-updates-here/21059/

Right there, all production had stopped, the process has been delayed. This invalidates your reference. STOP! reverting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lillessrune (talk • contribs) 13:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@Lillessrune: Oof, no, that's not a reliable source. That's one of the hundreds of websites that put together a "who, what, when" list of everything they don't know. Do you have a reliable source or not? If you don't, I'll be restoring the content. If it's not released by the end of 2020, then it can be removed. And sign your posts, I posted on your talk page how to do that. -- /Alex/₂₁ 00:10, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

@Lillessrune: Do you have any further comments or a reliable source, or not? If not, you need to accept that you are not allowed to violated Wikipedia's edit-warring policies, and restore the content, regardless of your own personal opinion. -- /Alex/₂₁ 23:02, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

@Dafteire: Do you not intend to contribute to this discussion as well? Interesting how your own two edits since April have been to this article. -- /Alex/₂₁ 12:28, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

@Lillessrune and Dafteire: You both need to actually respond to this discussion instead of continue edit-warring. -- /Alex/₂₁ 22:06, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Split the page?

Hi, everyone. Since Disenchantment is going on four parts now, I think we should split it up—either into 2 pages for season 1 and season 2, or 3 pages for Parts 1 - 3. Tell me what you think! PixtonRran (talk) 16:37, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

This could spin off to List of Disenchantment episodes until the number of episodes or the amount to write up about each season gets too big. If consensus is to split by season, then put both part 1 and 2 in season 1 as half-seasons do not get their own article, compare The Walking Dead and other shows that have a mid-season hiatus. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 21:43, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

I like the episode list idea. PixtonRran (talk), 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Only once Part 4 has a table, otherwise there's not enough episodes to split per MOS:TVSPLIT and Wikipedia:Article splitting (television). These are WP:TV-related guidelines for splitting episodes that need to be followed. -- /Alex/₂₁ 23:01, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Okay, cool; we'll do it then. PixtonRran (talk), 19 November 2020 (UTC)

PixtonRran, did you see the above comment or not? Making the split would be going against WP:TV guidelines and would require to be reverted. -- /Alex/₂₁ 22:26, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Oh—okay. Thanks! PixtonRran (talk) 02:12, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I understand what happened; I meant, "we'll do it then" as in we'll do it when Disenchantment has 40 episodes, not "We'll do it then" as in we'll do it now. Sorry! PixtonRran (talk) 18:12, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

@PixtonRran, @AngusW🐶🐶F, and @/Alex/₂₁, I got the page back which was recently deleted by a bot, I believe. Right now, it is a draft at Draft:List of Disenchantment episodes. My plan was that once the page has the descriptions of the 10 episodes in part 4, it can be submitted and become its own page. Historyday01 (talk) 20:39, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

I'd support a split after Part 4 is released and has its summaries added. -- Alex_21 _TALK 22:13, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

I also support a plan at that point as well. I just had to make sure the page wasn't deleted, since I was watching it, I saw it was a redlink, so I requested its undeletion, and hence, here we are with the page brought back. I'm pretty excited for this upcoming season, as it looks pretty rad, from the previews I've seen. Historyday01 (talk) 04:38, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

I tried to request a db-move on this but Liz has declined, stating it is obviously not ready. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 06:21, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Too early. After the season's premiered. There's no rush until then, and when it does, I'm a page mover so I can just swap the draft and redirect. -- Alex_21 _TALK 07:19, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Oh, I agree, it is too early to move it at this point (it should only be submitted once descriptions for the episodes have been added AND the new episodes have premiered), but I am glad that the page was rescued from being deleted... with all the work that went into the page up to that point. Historyday01 (talk) 16:53, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

@AngusW🐶🐶F, @Alex_21, the draft has been updated with the new episode descriptions, descriptions I put together after watching the eps for Part 4 yesterday and the day before. Historyday01 (talk) 19:44, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Episode articles

I have redirected the article For Whom the Pig Oinks, as WP:TV consensus is that a plot and a few reviews does not make a notable episode article. Not all episodes need articles, and separate episode articles rarely exist for a series that is binge-released. I'm wondering if the same is needed for A Princess, an Elf, and a Demon Walk Into a Bar and Dreamland Falls. (I also note that a draft exists for Draft:Tiabeanie Falls.) -- /Alex/₂₁ 00:23, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Character split

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was to split Article created from draft. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 04:20, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

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Since there the show has an ensemble cast, I think the article should be split into an "List of Disenchantment characters." I have already constructed a draft here (you are welcome to add on to it, of course!) and I think it would be a good idea. Tell me what you think! PixtonRran (talk) 22:25, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

This looks like a good contribution. It also solves the issue that at present somewhat random characteristics are listed. 188.29.122.32 (talk) 19:16, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, @PixtonRran and @188.29.122.32, that does seem like a good idea, especially since there is a lot more there now than on the main page here... I'd support it as long all the sources on the "Voice cast and characters" section are transferred over to that page. --Historyday01 (talk) 21:03, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

I agree! It seems like a good idea, since it features more information about the main and recurring characters, and also some info on guest characters. 72.132.241.163 (talk) 04:20, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, that was my thought too. --Historyday01 (talk) 21:14, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

I also support this. How many people do we need on board to do this? I'm new to wikipedia, so I don't know. SirLou (talk) 17:14, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't think there are any hard and fast rules for how many people we need. As WP:NHC says, "consensus can be most easily defined as agreement." While I'd say we keep this open until maybe the end of February, however, WP:RFCLOSE says, "the default length of a formal request for comment is 30 days" so perhaps it should be closed soon? And this could be considered an "informal discussion" per WP:CLOSE as consensus seems to be here "and the outcome is obvious."Historyday01 (talk) 17:31, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Since everyone here is in agreement, should we just do it? SirLou (talk) 19:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I’d say yes. --Morten Haan 🥐 talk • skin draft 20:03, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Great! Historyday01 (talk) 23:16, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't know how to, so anyone who can should do it.SirLou (talk) 00:09, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

There is already a draft page, so it shouldn't be too hard to turn that into an actual article. Historyday01 (talk) 01:19, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Okay—I submitted the draft. SirLou (talk) 02:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Renewal Status

I feel that there should be some mention that as of April 2022 there has been no announcement on if it's cancelled or not, I think some people will come here looking for that answer. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.13.219 (talk) 11:49, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Why did you post this discussion in the middle of the talk page? And we report on what has happened, not what has not happened. Once the show is renewed or cancelled, then we'll detail it. -- Alex_21 _TALK 12:08, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Exactly. If Netflix has renewed or cancelled the series, they'll note that. Its not like they have been shy about doing that in the past. Historyday01 (talk) 12:51, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

it is weird though that it in december they still did not announce anything Braganza (talk) 15:24, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

I imagine they will announce something either this month or next month. Historyday01 (talk) 21:30, 17 December 2022 (UTC)