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No statement about Karantanian Democracy?? (as the birth of real Democracy?)[edit]
The old Karantanian Democracy was called Rota (in Latin: Institutio Sklavenika Lex) which included election of the prince and later dukes "in the name of people". All women and men have had free will to elect their leader. His descendants weren't necessary new rulers over the land.
Here is a short description of it. Karantanian democracy inspired Bodin and later American president Thomas Jefferson who wrote American Declaration of Independence.
http://www.hervardi.com/images/spomenik_ustolicevanje.gif http://www.globalpolitician.com/print.asp?id=698
Text removal[edit]
Hi, I've removed the text introduced here as it appears to have been copied from https://www.britannica.com/topic/consociationalism and http://democracy-support.eu/southafrica/template/Preventing_and_Mitigating_Electoral_Conflict_and_Violence.pdf. Brittanica's content is copyrighted, and while there's no copyright notice on the ECES source, [their https://www.eces.eu/en/ website] has a copyright notice. (They also appear to assert copyright in relation to a "methodology" to prevent election-related conflict, which I think is unrelated to this.) It's possible I have removed a sentence or two here that was not actually copied or closely paraphrased from those two sources. If so, my apologies; I'm double-checking this now. /wiae /tlk 12:45, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- The following sentence seems okay from a copyright perspective and could theoretically be reinserted. That said, not sure it necessarily should be, given that we already have a separate article on Consociationalism). Thanks, /wiae /tlk 13:38, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
According to the founder of the theory of consociational democracy, Arendt Lijphart, “Consociational democracy means government by elite cartel designed to turn a democracy with a fragmented political culture into a stable democracy”.
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References
- ^ Lijphart, Arendt. "Consociational democracy". World Politics. 21 (2): 207–225. doi:10.2307/2009820.
Kratos[edit]
The article defines Kratos as "rule" and cites the Oxford dictionary. However the Greek Kratos is more often translated as power or force. The Greek word "Archon" is a more accurate translation of "rule." That distinction seem important in light of the distinction between political systems of -archy and -cracy. I think it would be more accurate to define kratos as "power" rather than "rule." 71.105.207.249 (talk) 02:55, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
"Constitutional democracy" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]
The redirect Constitutional democracy has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 25 § Constitutional democracy until a consensus is reached. Jay 💬 06:44, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
Relationship to Capitalism[edit]
There are some who say that capitalism and democracy go hand in hand, and others who proclaim that they are contradictory.
Personally, with democracy not yet having existed separately from capitalism, I wonder if it can function without it. Obviously, they don't need one another to survive, or else capitalism would've made China a democracy. However, again, we have yet to see a non-capitalist democracy in the modern day.
I'm just wondering, is capitalism a prerequisite for democracy, or is it just something that often coexists a lot? I would be happy if it could be discussed here. Western Progressivist (talk) 16:19, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- WP:NOTAFORUM Furius (talk) 18:54, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
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