Talk:Dave Prentis

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Daily Mail 31% Pension increase article[edit]

The Mail published a story about Prentis receiving a 31% pension increase from UNISON. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2020536/Union-boss-Dave-Prentis-bags-31-pension-rise.html It's referenced in the main article.

The Mail has subsequently retracted the story and apologised to Prentis. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/article-2023210/Dave-Prentis.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

The original article has now gone from the the Mail website,

What happens to the parts of the main article that reference the missing Mail article? Does it stand, or should those parts be removed as there is now no supporting reference?

I would also ask - is the estimated value of anybody's house of the slightest relevance? It's a moot point anyway, as the link was dead, but some entries have clear NPOV issues. Marty jar (talk) 11:38, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Although the link to the original DM article is dead, the apology link still validates the information content of the article here. I have also found and inserted an archived web page on the wayback machine which preserves the original article in tact for reference.

I have also added some more up to date content re Prentis' appointment as a director of the Bank of England in 2012, extended the discussion of the DM article with references to UNISON annual accounts and done some general tidying.Hedles (talk) 17:40, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

General issues[edit]

I have added a few references (some to already referenced sources) to indicate provenance of some of the information already present, but there are some other issues with existing content that I haven't been able to fix:

  • The first clause "Dave Prentis (born 1950, Leeds)" is contradicted by the info box which says, "Born May 29th 1948". This is also inconsistent with the original DM article which said (on 30th July 2011), "Mr Prentis, 58" and the Telegraph reference ("Profile: Dave Prentis, an elder statesman of the awkward squad") which said of him (on 24 Jul 2008), "Prentis, 58". Thus four claims are:
Source Claim DOB > DOB <=
Wiki article, introduction 31 Dec 1949 31 Dec 1950
Wiki article, info box: 29 May 1948 29 May 1948
Daily Mail article 58 on 30 Jul 2011 30 Jul 1952 30 Jul 1953
Daily Telegraph article 58 on 24 Jul 2008 24 Jul 1949 24 Jul 1950

Only the first and last of these claims have any overlap. If both these are true, then that narrows the interval to: 31 Dec 1949 < DOB <= 24 Jul 1950.

Wiki Intro AND Telegraph ........................... 31 Dec 1949 24 Jul 1950

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/ reports only one David Prentis born between 1946 and 1965: in 2nd quarter of 1948 in LEEDS, Yorkshire.

genesreunited.co.uk...... ............................. 01 Apr 1948 30 Jun 1948

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/, likewise, reports only one David Prentis born between Mar 1946 and Dec 1965: in June 1948 in Leeds to a mother Egan.

freebmd.org.uk.............. .............................. 01 Jun 1948 30 Jun 1948
  • There is a conflict between a statement in the introductory paragraph, "He was originally elected [General Secretary of UNISON] on 1 January 2001" and the statement in section UNISON Leadership, "He succeeded Rodney Bickerstaffe in 2001, having been elected in February 2000."

The Telegraph article says, "Although he won an election to fill the boots of the well-regarded Rodney Bickerstaffe as general secretary of Unison in January 2001 . . .", which is slightly ambiguous. It might mean that his election was to 'fill the boots of Bickerstaffe in January 2001', without specifying the date of the election. And this might have been misinterpreted by the wiki editor who wrote the introduction to mean that Prentis was elected in January 2001 (doing so immediately).

  • There are no references to support the material on Prentis' appointments to Catalyst, Warwick Institute of Governance and Public Management, as visiting fellow of Nuffield College Oxford, to "various joint working parties with the government and the CBI", or as President of Unity Trust Bank. (I have added a ref to the Telegraph article to validated his appointment to the IPPR.)Hedles (talk) 17:40, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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