Talk:Cornish people/GA1
GA Review[edit]
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I will presently begin reviewing this article and make straightforward changes as I go (explanations in edit summaries). Please revert any changes I make where I inadvertently change the meaning. I will post queries below. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:18, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Both "geographic and historical factors distinguish the Cornish as an ethnic group"- another way of saying this without resorting to quotes?- Ditto with any others in the Classification section, although I do concede for some it is well-nigh impossible :)
who derived from... - looks odd in active tenseMethodism, the then main form of religious practice for the Cornish, was held with strong conviction by the Cornish, encouraging Methodist sensibilities in a direct rivalry with Catholic Irish people in Australia- need to rephrase to reduce repetition. I am musing on this one - tricky.
A restored living modern language, most Cornish speakers are enthusiasts, persons who have learned the language through private study - flow issues as the subject changes between the first and subsequent clauses.- Daily life in Cornwall therefore is conducted in the English language, albeit with some regional peculiarities - rather than leaving this as an easter egg link, I think a few of the most prominent cornish expressions would be good to mention here.
- My impression was that Methodism was pretty prominent, and may deserve more than one line in the Religion section (?) Prevalence or some other info?
- As far as the GA criteria go...
1. Well written?:
- Prose quality:
- Manual of Style compliance:
2. Factually accurate and verifiable?:
- References to sources:
- Citations to reliable sources, where required:
- No original research:
3. Broad in coverage?:
- Major aspects:
- Focused:
4. Reflects a neutral point of view?:
- Fair representation without bias:
5. Reasonably stable?
- No edit wars, etc. (Vandalism does not count against GA):
6. Illustrated by images, when possible and appropriate?:
- Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
A couple of images need WP:ALT text. I need to sleep now.
Overall:
- Pass or Fail: (just about...)
The above suggestions are not deal-breakers. I'll adjust it to a GA when we fix up the last couple of images -the suggestions are more of a shove towards FAC :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:18, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'll try fix the last few, but some are "near impossible", but others (like the list of local words) will need someone with local knowledge. I aim to finish the last few ALTs tonight. --Jza84 | Talk 17:14, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps some of these would add the local colour. List of Cornish dialect words: selections
- Bal or Wheal - traditional Cornish words for a mine, e.g Bal maiden; Wheal Jane
- Cloam - Crockery, pottery, earthenware, e.g "cloam oven" an old type of housefold oven
- Crib - a mid-morning break for a snack (see below also)
- Crowst - a mid-morning break for a snack
- Dreckly - soon, but not necessarily immediately - like "mañana", but less urgent, as in "Cornishmen do it dreckly"
- Maid - girl, girl-friend
- Proper - satisfactory, as in "Proper job!" = very good
- Scat - to hit or break "Scat abroad = Smashed up"
--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 06:13, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Great stuff. Just 4 or 5 main ones should do it I imagine, but we need a reference. :S --Jza84 | Talk 10:44, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Meh, we can leave that for FAC I think then - thus the two (non-deal-breaker) potential content improvements I see as left over from the above for FAC to be (i) a couple of the best known cornish words, and (ii) A sentence or two on the current prevalence of methodism (census figures maybe??). Otherwise we're good to go methinks...Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:09, 17 October 2009 (UTC)