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Capacity of 23,500?[edit]

It is very difficult to untangle PR spin from the facts on the issue of capacity. The planning application to Manchester City Council gave the 'normal' capacity as 16,000 to 20,000; with a capability of hosting 23,500 for a limited proportion of events. But all subsequent promotional material quotes capacity as 23,500. My reading of this is that 20,000 is the seated capacity when the retractable lower tier is fully extended (and that 16,000 is the capacity for the tiered seating alone); but that 23,500 can be accommodated with the lower tier retracted and the arena floor used for standing. But this is nowhere stated explicitly that I can find - only that there will be a wide range of potential seating/standing configurations possible given the flexible design for the lowest tier and floor. A lot of this seems to be due to the promoters' constant re-iteration that capacity at Co-op Live will be greater than that of Manchester Arena; which in the earliest material appears to have been justified by comparing the 15,000 capacity of the tiers of fixed seating at the Manchester Arena, with the 16,000 capacity of Co-op Live tiered seating (with the lower tier extended). What OVG seem not yet to have determined is what the maximum fully-seated capacity will be - with seating both in tiers and across remaining areas of the arena floor - which is the number that seems to be the one usually quoted in Wikipedia as 'maximum capacity' for indoor arenas, and for which the Manchester Arena figure is 21,000. TomHennell (talk) 09:12, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • found it - fully seated capacity is given as 20,500 in the Design and Access statement "all seated with a capacity of 20,500 and all standing with a capacity of 23,500" page 115. I have edited the info-box and associated list articles with this number. TomHennell (talk) 18:03, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]