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Including perpetrator in infobox field for "fatalities"[edit]

Bringing this here for discussion as it's gone in and out of the infobox a couple of times.

The infobox documentation for the "fatalities" field says:

fatalities – Number of people killed during attack(s); optionally, you can split this into different types of people (e.g. 121 passengers, 21 crew or 3 soldiers, 1 civilian)

While that doesn't preclude adding the perpetrator to this field, what precedent do we have for including perpetrators in similar circumstances? Bear in mind this event isn't comparable to other UK uses of {{Infobox civilian attack}} – in 2017 Westminster attack, 2017 London Bridge attack, and 2019 London Bridge stabbing, the perpetrators were killed by police during the attacks. Critically, their deaths caused the end of the attacks. In the case of the Clapham event, the attack itself was well over by the time Ezedi died. Do we have a comparable event to this one, where the perpetrator died not as a direct result of the attack (and after the attack itself had ended)? MIDI (talk) 08:44, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adding the perpetrator to the fatality figures may be debateable - normally it would be fatalities sustained during the attack and he did not die from his injuries but the drowning from immersing in the river afterwards.Cloptonson (talk) 18:18, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks – I'm of the same opinion. MIDI (talk) 09:46, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinates[edit]

Hi @TheVeganFromNorfolk: could you please add a footnote for the more specific coordinates? When I added them originally I used the least-specific coordinates I could for Lessar Avenue, but if we now know a specific location on the street we should have an inline citation. Thanks! MIDI (talk) 12:29, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MIDI: Hello, I'm not sure where to put the footnote, but here's a link to an article from Sky News [1]. The video at the top contains an aerial view map with the location pinpointed (1 minute and 14 seconds in). The video also includes the CCTV footage of the attack and the footage of the parked car involved after the attack – on Google Maps street view you can compare the surroundings. TheVeganFromNorfolk (talk) 15:05, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brill, thanks – added footnote to article (when it talks about Lessar Avenue) and in the infobox too with a timestamp. MIDI (talk) 18:20, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]