Talk:City of Derry Airport

Protection

You can unprotect the article now that Cyberfox1954 has agreed that they were wrong and will now presumably stop messing. On the other hand perhaps you should block Cyberfox1954. (Look at the history of their edits during August - not normal!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.64.148 (talk) 14:23, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

The Airport actually has 3 runways.

The Article states that the airport has only one runway when this is strictly incorrect. Eglinton airfield has 3 runways with 1 being temporarily beyond use and the other 2 being serviceable if required. The main runway designated 26/08 complies with full CAA standards and can cater for all types of aircraft. The shorter runway 02/20 was very occasionally used by small private aircraft when the wind direction permitted and is still often used by helicopters when arriving from the south.

Does anyone hold particular views on this one way or the other? --78.33.101.58 (talk) 12:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

The UK AIP (here) states both in textual data and on the Aerodrome Chart that 08/26 is the only licensed runway at the airfield. SempreVolando (talk) 13:37, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Could be because 02/20 does not have any lights or an ILS approach system. The 02/20 runway is most certainly used by aircraft and on the authority of the ATC'S. --78.33.101.58 (talk) 13:49, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Interesting, my company Jeppesen charts also show only one runway (08/26), however Google Earth satellite view clearly shows runway 02/20 with designators and the runway appears open (no crosses painted). The airport website also shows two runways available (on this page). It seems unusual that there is no mention of runway 02/20 in the AIP though. SempreVolando (talk) 14:04, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Here is where the runway was tagged as closed. I suspect that both the airport site and Google Earth have just not been updated as the chart does show several "X" on the runway. Google don't always update as often as you would like. The image from where I live is about 2 years old and a lot of Scotland is still very poor. A look at the chart would indicates that 02/20 is unused, taxiway C and H and at the south end has a helicopter training area. I think the OP is correct. Helicopters land in the training area and then taxi in. Also rather than if "...wind direction permits..." it's more that small aircraft use the 02/20 when forced to by wind conditions. We get aircraft who will occasionally land on the taxiway if the wind is strong enough to force that and on a very few occasions I have had aircraft, like the Cessna Skymaster, land and takoff on the apron. As long as there are no regulations against using it then aircraft will if the conditions favour it. By the way what used to be the third runway does have severl "X"'s in the Google image and what is I assume, based on the chart, a firehall at the south end. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 16:25, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

The Google map for the airport is very much out of date. The second runway has now had its 02/20 delineators removed and white "X" markings painted at each end of the runway to delineate its non-use. The third runway still exists but has storage sheds and a fire fighters training zone placed half-way along it. It is also used as a parking zone away from the terminal for small aircraft visiting the airport and as a refuelling area for Police and Search & Rescue helicopters. --78.33.101.58 (talk) 13:39, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

02/20 would have to be maintained. It's both a helicopter area and two taxiways. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 09:59, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

The helicopters use the grass triangle area to the north of and midway along 08/26 to practice hover manoeuvres.--78.33.101.58 (talk) 14:17, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Nobody has made much of the fact that Derry City Council has seen fit to un-licence and therefore close 02/20 as a cost saving measure, thus depriving smaller aircraft the safer option of landing into wind on days where the predominant breeze is from the south. Ok, not such a problem if you happen to be the captain of an Airbus or B737, but quite an issue to pilots of small light aircraft, particularly as the single runway 08/26 forces you into a crosswind landing compounded by the turbulence generated by the high ground just to the south of the airfield. Yes there is an annual cost implication to maintaining 02/20, but surely it is better to keep the facility open rather than have subsequent owners battle with the huge costs of having 02/20 repaired, inspected and re-licensed at some future date? And put more bluntly, surely there is a duty of care to be provided by the public body managing the airfield to see that services are maintained as they found them, if not improved??? And finally if the argument of cost Vs usage is applied to close 02/20 then perhaps the whole loss-making airport should be mothballed until someone works out how to stop this drain on the public purse.Paddyav8r (talk) 09:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulgaria flights

Flights will operate on Mondays from Derry to Bourgas from 21st June 2010 until 2nd August 2010.

This info is carried within the History section as it does not exist at the moment. Showing it as seasonal would only lead readers to believe thaat it currently exists as a current destination when this is not the case and will not be the case until June 2010. --Cyber Fox (talk) 22:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

The listing as it stands is in accordance with WP:AIRPORTS:

Airlines and destinations

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• For future destinations, add: "[begins date service begins]" - after the destination. References should be provided.

Works fine on all other airport pages. SempreVolando (talk) 22:15, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

CyberFox1954 - you're quite the messer! Look at the history of your edits, and re-edits and reverts and undos. Have you not seen the "Show preview" option instead of constantly saving your edits and messing up the history not to mention cluttering the hard disks of wikipedia with your 10 attempts to make one change. Furthermore, you were quite beligerent in your attempt to impose your version of the truth, threatening to block other users who wouldn't agree with you. This is not your article, it is a wikipedia article belonging to all and as such others editors have a right to make changes. What is utterly laughable is that in the end you agreed you were wrong. Now if you had looked at the facts in the first place instead of bull-headedly insisting you were right you could have avoided all the messing...... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.64.148 (talk) 14:15, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

The information was added without references, users have a right to remove unreferenced data. Then you started vandalising pages by removing other people's conversations. Now please stop commenting on other editors and concentrate on building an encyclopaedia. Comment on content not editors. Canterbury Tail talk 15:33, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Yaaaawn...when you have finished spewing procrastinations maybe you will consider registering instead of making comments behind an IP cloak! Oh and by the way we usually sign our edits!! --Cyber Fox (talk) 15:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Your dynamic IP didn't get you far yesterday, abuse of editing privileges on Wikipedia will always be dealt with effectively no matter how many IP's you choose to hide behind whilst being abusive to other users. LOL --Cyber Fox (talk) 15:04, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

"Your dynamic IP didn't get you far yesterday" - The article is exactly as I wrote it.

"Then you started vandalising pages by removing other people's conversations." - I vandalised nothing. I edited. Now if you don't like what I edited, feel free to edit it yourself but be aware that if I don't like what you have edited that I will merely re-edit it, just as you are free to do. It's not your encyclopedia!

Now before you lazily choose to remove content in future, perhaps you should check its veracity (not difficult - a google search should suffice) and if you feel it needs further referencing then feel free to add it. Don't however just think that you can remove content simply because you don't know whether it is true or not.

The Bulgaria flights were a fact when you removed them, and are still a fact. "Concentrate on building an encyclopaedia!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.64.148 (talk) 17:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Put simply your edit did not comply with the project guide [1] Maybe you should take some time out to read it! --Cyber Fox (talk) 19:21, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you should both chill out. The next one of you who makes a personal comment against the other, or some semblence of a personal attack, will be blocked. And that includes the IP editor as we can block the entire IP range you're editing from. Also this goes for continuously deleting conversations from talk pages. Canterbury Tail talk 19:46, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

" . . . as we can block the entire IP range". I'm sure the millions of Talk Talk users would find that a little extreme just for the sake of the Derry Airport discussion page, but go ahead!

References

Pictures

Please, Please, Please! Can someone obtain images of the actual terminal that could be used on the top right hand side of the page just under the airport logo, like that of Cork Airport. The airport terminal is quite aesthetically pleasing as airport terminals come. Also may serve as a future history image after the expansion of the terminal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NorthernCounties (talk • contribs) 11:18, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to get this image or a similar one on the page: http://www.cityofderryairport.com/viewgallery.asp?id=6 It'd be really nice! --NorthernCounties (talk) 19:48, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Deleted section

As to the deleted conversation section, the Derry/Londonderry debate has been rehearsed ad-infinitum on the Derry discussion page, it even has its own article. This is the airport page, it has no place here. I do not intend to stiffle debate merely encourage the debate to take place in the correct place. This discussion page is a work in progress, evolving, changing. On occasion this involves archiving content that is no longer relevant to the discussion page, so as to keep the page relevant, concise and brief. This was done recently on the Derry discussion, infact I think it was done by you . . . . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.198.151 (talk) 14:12, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Archiving is archiving, not deletion of conversations. Especially old conversations. Canterbury Tail talk 11:38, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

The name discussion was relevant to the article. It may have ended up meandering but it was relevant. Anyway I've had to protect this talk page due to multiple SPA anons deleting conversations. Canterbury Tail talk 13:45, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Irish Translation

Is it necessary to have an Irish Translation? Surely in the interests of fairnesss an ulster scots translation should also be included. Also the other major airports in Northern Ireland to have not been translated into Irish so why the need to do this with the City of Derry Airport? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Factocop (talk • contribs) 16:59, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

While I have no time for Factocop's attitude in many of his wiki-activities this week, he raises a valid point. Neither of the Belfast airports have their Irish, or Ulster Scots, names in the lead paragraph: Cardiff and Anglessey airports have the Welsh names, and 2 of the 5 Scottish international airports give the Scottish Gaelic version (no Cornish for Newquay airport though :@) )

Signage of public buildings in Northern Ireland generally gives either one or three languages: new signs rarely give two, so the situation prior to the recent editwarring seems difficult to justify. There should be, as a basic minimum, consistency between the three international airports in NI, and verification of the grounds for inclusion of that which is challenged: that consistency might be applicable across all areas of the UK that are not monolingual is also desireable. Kevin McE (talk) 15:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Point acknowledged, however, the Derry article is inline with other airports in the Island of Ireland, There is an irish name for the airport, and hence why it is included. There also seems to be more sinister aspects to the edits occuring by Factocop which seems to be the removal of all references of the City it serves Derry. Except those which can't be named otherwise, I.e the Airport itself and the Council who owns the majority stake.--NorthernCounties (talk) 15:09, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Kevin has pointed out as I have prior that neither Belfast International or Belfast City Airports carry an Irish translation so to say that it is consistent with other Airports in Ireland is about 60% correct. The City of Derry Airport is in Northern Ireland where Irish and Ulster Scots are spoken as well as English so if you are to include and Irish Translation then an Ulster Scots translation should also be included or just have no translation. Nothing sinister here, but to say that it only serves Derry City is inaccurate. And please no personal attacks.Factocop (talk) 15:20, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Factocop, then instead of just removing Irish, how about you see it's uniformly introduced, aswell as Ulster Scots (However Derry Airport does note it being known as my some by Londonderry Airport. Further if you have an issue with it saying it serves Derry, you have quite a task at hand, reverting every Airport in existance. Belfast City does not just serve Belfast City... does it? Thats one mere example. The airport serves Derry, hence it's name.--NorthernCounties (talk) 15:25, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Belfast City Airport is actually in the City where as City of Derry Airport is outside the city at Eglinton. The reason why City of Derry Airport carries this name is because I don't think too many people would know where they were flying to if it were called Eglinton Airport much the same reason why Belfast International Airport is not called Antrim International. To call it is Londonderry Airport is probably more accurate given that it is in County Londonderry but given that general consensus over rules fact, I would probably find it difficult to find a number of people to agree with me larger than the clique that patrol this page.Factocop (talk) 15:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Also wiki user VirtualRevolution informed me on the Derry City FC discussion board that Wikipedia only permits one language translation so I am sure it possible to have both translations.Factocop (talk) 15:40, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I would like to see were this was said, the block status on the page even notes that it made not be in the agreed state. You can not also say there more proper name for the airport would be Londonderry Airport when its official name is City of Derry Airport. It's like saying Northern Ireland article could be renames the realm to the north east of the island of ireland. Belfast International states it serves Belfast... thats a good bit further out than Derry. The airport is there, and funded by the council, why? to serve derry and it's rate payers! Serves Derry will be reintroduced--NorthernCounties (talk) 15:52, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

It would be slightly weird to name it "City of Londonderry" when "City of Derry Airport" is all over http://www.cityofderryairport.com/. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:53, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

No such thing was said on the Derry City talkpage: he said that simply translating Derry City Football Club into Ulster Scots and posting it would be OR.

Northern Counties' claim that Irish on the Derry Airport article is not borne out by the Belfast airports, and was a disingenuous claim. I would like to see current official documentation that indicates the Irish use, and strongly suspect that this will also show the Ulster Scots. I used Belfast International airport this year and both "secondary" languages were in equal prominence.

The field in the airport infobox for "city served" seems rather daft: people use an airport to reach a hinterland that could be very extensive: is there advice at that infobox's talkpage as to how its use is envisaged? I've used Derry airport to get to a wedding in West Cork! (well, started a cycling trip that ended there) Kevin McE (talk) 16:15, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I would like to point out that I implied that the inclusion of Ulster Scots would not be outrageous and that he should, if he is so passionate about the topic, seek the inclusion in all northern airports instead of removal. However I do fear at this rate, we'll even have to include Esperanto at somepoint! I to have used Glasgow airport to get to Aberdeen before and even Sharm el Sheik, but that doesn't remove the face that it is a point in the infobox.

I reitterate the fact that it is the rate payers of Derry that pay for the airport, and only pay for it, because it serves those rate payers and inhabitants in the City Council region.--NorthernCounties (talk) 16:25, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Don't undermine a discussion with ridiculous comments like that about Esperanto: you will draw comparison with the editor who suggested that Derry City FC might be just as usefully labelled in Chinese this week, and I think you'll know who that was! Public buildings in Northern Ireland are now usually signed in three languages: is there any NPOV argument that two languages are suitable?

I can guess who it was... But in the new era of peace and serenity regarding N.I topics, I think definitely instead of ignoring the two languages, they should both be present. And I think if this maintains peace on Wikipedia, it would be widely accepted. Ahh, the complexities of N.I. (Maybe that aforementioned editor could edit or start the Chinese article on Derry City FC, then Chinese would be approriate!) --NorthernCounties (talk) 19:33, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Fields in infoboxes can always be left blank: the documentation at the infobox says of that field "If the airport is associated with a major city but actually located in a smaller town, list the major city here and the smaller town under location." Given that the "major city" is already in the name of the airport, it seems redundant, but if anything is to go in there, then Derry would seem to be the appropriate thing to put. Kevin McE (talk) 19:15, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

My previous point had been deleted by someone but to say that the city of derry airport is funded only by taxpayers is wrong. Are you telling me that there is no airport tax at the airport? http://ec.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/about_us/office_in_northern_ireland/press_releases/0609_en.htm - someone is lying here. Either Northern Counties or The European Commission?Factocop (talk) 16:34, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

The Airport is called City of Derry Airport but it isnt in the city but it is in the County so it would be more accurate to call it County Londonderry Airpor. Dont worry about official names, on wikipedia you don't have to use the officail name or else there would be a Londonderry wikipedia page.Factocop (talk) 16:46, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

You really need to review WP:POINT before going too much further down this line of thought. (Besides, the airport byelaws were authored by the "Derry City Council", not "Londonderry City Council") --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Sarek, i am just saying that official names don't really mean anything on here. Not to go off record but the council is called Derry City Council but the city is called Londonderry. anyway...my point is that the Airport does not only serve Londonderry/Derry but the surrounding area and that it is not only Derry City Council taxpayers that pay for it. It is an airport that has been supported by the European funding aswell as charging a tax like all airports on their flights. Still waiting for NorthernCounties reply.Factocop (talk) 17:05, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I don't see your argument here? The EC grants aid to any area and every area within Europe. Even the West Coast Main Line in Britian is funded for partially under the European TEN-T project. That's what happens when you inhabit Europe. Fact is the airport wouldn't be operational if it weren't for Derry City Council and its ratepayers!--NorthernCounties (talk) 18:24, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Just to remind editors that they should not change the article while a discussion is ongoing and wait for it to either gain a consensus for change or the status quo applies first. Just a suggestion why cant the article have the alternate languages in the infobox (like in the Derry article) rather than in the lead sentence. MilborneOne (talk) 18:30, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi MilborneOne, the article was reverted by myself as the article was changed to the "unreverted state" at one persons preference, this has been reverted back now to the status quo, until consensus can be achieved. --NorthernCounties (talk) 18:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Understood, sometimes when protection is applied it can be to what is seen as the "wrong" version. But the onus is on editors requiring a change to get a consensus before it is changed, no consensus for change then the status quo remains. MilborneOne (talk) 18:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I removed the Irish translation of the name, per the Belfast Airport examples. Unless we have a source showing that's an official alternate name for the airport, rather than just a translation, I think we can leave it out. Shannon Airport shows both names at the top of http://www.shannonairport.com/index.html, so it makes sense there. Here, not so much.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:51, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I think NC provided several reference for the use of the Irish translation of the Airport and I see no reason for this reference material being removed. Bjmullan (talk) 21:30, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

My view would have been along the lines of WP:Consistency but since that is no longer in force I would say in the intersts of fairness, you do need to either just have the English name only, if there are no reliable sources for it as SarekOfVulcan (which would be my preference) says or if you must have the irish name, you should have the Ulster Scots name too. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 07:45, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

I am happy with the consensus reached. Obviously NC wasn't able to back up his claims that the Airport is only paid for by Derry City Council tax payers given that they charge airport tax on all their flights and that it is not only taxpayers who use the airport for flights. I don't expect a retraction but there is the need to highlight inaccurate information. Obviously to say that it serves Derry and only Derry is inaccurate but given that the Belfast Airports suggest that they serve only Belfast, then it is consistent with the other airports in Northern Ireland.Factocop (talk) 08:33, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Factocop, just to stop your attacks about it not being susidised by Derry Rate payers... which is the only reason the airport services, heres not 1, not 2 but 3 references... http://www.supportcityofderryairport.co.uk/, http://www.derrycity.gov.uk/rates/district.htm, http://www.niauditoffice.gov.uk/pubs/LocalGovtAudit/20072008/Derry_CC_Annual_Audit_Letter_07_08.pdf. Furthermore as BJMullan has agreed and you are all ignoring, 5 references are available for the Irish name! --NorthernCounties (talk) 10:52, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

NC, you did not say 'sudsidise'. You said that the Airport was paid for entirely by the ratepayers of Derry City Council! Maybe re-read your posts again. Its not the validity of the source that is in question. It really does go to show that you have ignored every other post other than your own. The question is, is there a need for the irish translation in the first place given that the other major airports in Northern Ireland do not have a translation. I understand the need for a translation on the Belfast City page because it carries some meaning in irish but to translate the name of City of Derry Airport into irish just for the sake of it is pointless. And if you wish to include an Irish translation then please then provide a source for an ulster scots translation!Factocop (talk) 11:09, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Every airport charges their passengers, but the charge is minimal when Ryanair are involved. The fact is, if the tax payer didn't fund the airport, it wouldn't be able to operate, for passengers to even pay a small charge. Finally if you like being so fussy on details, the Irish department for transport can be applicable to Ulster. Since Ulster is 9 counties! But that's just scruitinising as you would--NorthernCounties (talk) 11:14, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

I understand that there probably aren't enough flights going out of the airport so it is not exaxtly the most financially viable so ofcourse as it is council owned, the taxpayers would contribute to its up keep but to say that it was entirely run under the steam of the taxpayers, and to ignore eu and government funding along with passengers who pay to use the airport was well ...not wise. I guess next time, say what you mean and mean what you say and try and be a bit more open minded. You can start by reading other peoples posts. And yes well done Ulster has 9 Counties. Big Star for you.Factocop (talk) 11:21, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Well as long as we no the airport survives thanks to the Derry Rate payer... how about you now find references for the ulster scots name, and just because you dont have an ulster scots translation, doesn't mean you can through the toys out of your pram, and refuse the 5 times certified Irish name, which references hail from North and South--NorthernCounties (talk) 11:25, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Again, you really do need to start reading other posts. Why do you think that the City of Derry Airport requires an Irish Translation in the first place? given that none of the other airports in Northern Ireland have a translation. toys? very mature!Factocop (talk) 11:35, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

I believe your political maturity is more of an issue, anyway... I grow bored, back to work for me --NorthernCounties (talk) 11:41, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Who mentioned politics? I guess your agenda has become more obvious with that comment. And again you have failed to answer the question! :) and back in your box. good boy!Factocop (talk) 11:45, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

There's far too much of this trying to invent Irish names for places in Northern Ireland when all they amount to is a translation. This petty Irish Nationalistic trait should be better controlled.--87.114.186.228 (talk) 13:02, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

For someone thats so aware of this, how about you edit with your user name and not a once used IP? The Irish wasn't "invented" It has 5 references! --NorthernCounties (talk) 13:07, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

No-one needs to see the name of the airport in Irish, English is the universal language of the world, Irish is nothing but a leftover ancient tradition from by-gone days. Not much use for it in the 21st century.

What's this Northern Counties, reverting comments on a Talk Page? Interfering with genuine comments, must report your disruption!

Unregistered IP, please get your facts correct before accusation, It was not I who reverted your Irish language comments, but I support WikiTome who did, as they can be offensive to some. --NorthernCounties (talk) 12:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

You mean your constant attempts to try to introduce Irish names into English articles when no such name exists. Funny that! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.76.201 (talk) 12:48, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

People, people! I cite you this, this, this, and this! Thank you, thank you very much. WikiTome ^Talk 12:56, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Airport name

As the official airport name is "Londonderry/Eglinton" ("City of Derry" being more a brand), does someone object this article being renamed into "Londonderry/Eglinton Airport"? Slasher-fun (talk) 10:33, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Common name is as per the current title and there is a long standing compromise that the city is called Derry and the country Londonderry. So two grounds to object there alone. --Snowded ^TALK 10:38, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The airport has been renamed as per the owners, the City Council's request. There is numerous historic names for the airfield. But it is now City of Derry. Please stop being pointy as you seem to have no issue whatsoever with any other airport listing Glasgow - Prestwick as it's destination. The name Glasgow Prestwick calls itself. --NorthernCounties (talk) 10:47, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Also, look at point 6 in that reference. "Address - City of Derry Airport, Airport Road, Eglinton..." Hope the pilot isn't using a satnav and trying to enter Londonderry/Eglinton Airport. I jest naturally. --NorthernCounties (talk) 10:50, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Good point actually: if a pilot wants some information about this airport for his flight, he has to look for "Londonderry/Eglinton", not for "City of Derry Airport". I don't have anything against especially Prestwick airport, I'm just following the guidelines that have been discussed in the WP:Airports project. Slasher-fun (talk) 10:55, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The legal name of the airport is City of Derry Airport. These outdated "official names" are from some era long ago and the EU can't be bothered to rename every airport in Europe. The airports name is City of Derry. Yet again (in french as you won't answer) pourquoi êtes-vous concentrant sur ​​l'aéroport de Derry et l'aéroport de Glasgow? Êtes-vous essayer de faire un point? --NorthernCounties (talk) 11:01, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Don't see what the EU has to do with airport naming since this is still (and has always been) a national jurisdiction, but anyway since this prooves you seem to be pretty narrow-minded and don't want to discuss, I won't try arguing with you forever. But again, I suggest you to read the guidelines (especially here #5), as well as the loooong discussion (see? some people can actually discuss with arguments) that has led to this consensus. I won't be able to answer your question in French since it doesn't mean anything to me. Slasher-fun (talk) 11:09, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

French was never my strong point, but I believe you could get the gist. I am capable of discussion within debate. An regularly speak with those "in the know" on www.PPruNe.org. So I'm anything but narrow minded. I question your intentions however, due to your every growing issues. Alicante hasn't been cancelled, anyone who know's Ryanair, MOL is throwing a tantrum and won't want to leave the routes open for the likes of EZY to come in just because he can't turn around aircraft as quick with only one front door used for un/boarding. Then you suddenly have an issue with Glasgow Prestwick yet only on the City of Derry Airport page. You don't revert it on any other airport that serves PIK. Finally, when it doesn't go the way you want you try to threaten the City of Derry Airport name itself. This is trying to make a point which is against wiki-etiquette. And finally, I believe the Derry/Londonderry convention on Wiki would over-rule any bid to change it even if you had a decent arguement. Yawn --NorthernCounties (talk) 11:17, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

I can't see anything in the guidelines that says anything about name - its blank on the site you reference. Also anything there would not overrule WP:UCN --Snowded ^TALK 11:38, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

And by the same token mentioned above, the legal name of the city is Londonderry and not Derry. The name Derry being from a long time ago and simply an abbreviation of the proper legal name and a political chestnut to be bandied about by pro Republicans who like to take the British Pound in one hand but court allegiance to the Republic of Ireland on the other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.141.63 (talk) 13:22, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

No-one ever referred to the airport as Londonderry Eglinton Airport, this is purely a CAA title. The airport has always been called Eglinton Airport by locals in the same way as Belfast International is referred to by most NI people as Aldergrove Airport. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.198.116 (talk) 15:48, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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