Talk:Christian Hebraist

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Bias[edit]

This article has a major problem with neutrality. For example this sentence "The downward trend continued in the first half of the 19th century; Jewish literature became less and less a subject of investigation by Christians; and when it was studied it was generally for the purpose of forging weapons against the people whose literature it was." Not only is it uncited but also claims to know the motivation of most Christian Hebraists i.e. to use Hebrew as "a weapon" against Jewish people. Wow, not even close to neutral! Please guys, let's write articles that don't keep our own personal feelings in check. If you are going to say that "most" Christians study Hebrew simply to have some ammunition against Jews (which is totally unfounded) you better have some pretty good citations linked to it. Please correct this promptly! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.107.138.182 (talk) 12:24, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The text supplied comes from the Jewish Encyclopedia - which comes with its own biases!!! --MacRusgail 21:09, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting that they're there and should be addressed. --Flex (talk|contribs) 22:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree there are problems with POV, especially in the first part. However, this can be sorted out. I agree with the JE in that Hebrew studies are generally neglected in Christian circles - which I can vouch for personally - but not as much as they once were. We picked up the odd word of Greek from religious studies, but Hebrew very rarely came into it. "Ruakh" is the only word I recall coming across. Study of Hebrew certainly does aid Judaeo-Christian understanding. --MacRusgail 10:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List[edit]

I think the list should be moved to List of Christian Hebraists or should be struck altogether because of the existing Category:Christian Hebraists. --Flex (talk|contribs) 22:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That probably is a good idea for the near future. I have been keeping it on this webpage for now, since I am in the process of identifying some of the people on the list, most of whom appear in a Latinised dress, e.g. Drusius for Driesch etc. Some of these characters appear in the article text, so I'm in the process of linking them. --MacRusgail 10:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The list definitely is of questionable utility. Not to mention that it has many redlinks and unsourced entries. Per Wikipedia:Verifiability, we should only include a name on the list if we have a source saying "so and so is a Christian Hebraist". In cases where there's a link to an article which has such sources, it might be keepable, but everything else should probably be removed. --El on ka 22:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed tag[edit]

This article has been tagged as disputed for over a year. Are there still issues, or can we remove the tag? --El on ka 23:43, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I support the removal of the tag and a thorough review of the article. --Dampinograaf (talk) 04:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I support its removal. Most of the complaints were about certain phrases, which came straight out of the Jewish Encyclopedia, and has been resolved I think.--MacRusgail (talk) 16:50, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed, thanks for the input! --El on ka 22:28, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge tag[edit]

I removed today an ill-founded proposal to merge this article into Hebraist. Christian Hebraism is a serious topic; particularly in the 16/17th centuries when Christian Hebraists were of immense importance to the political development of Europe. This article as it stands is not terrible, although it stands in desparate need of major expansion and the attention of an expert. The article Hebraist is both paltry and a little strange.Historicist (talk) 22:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Updating[edit]

This page should really be overhauled by comparison with this Jewish Virtual Library page. I don't mean copy it across; but it seems clear that accepting its decisions about which Hebraists to include or omit is going to be a good idea; and it gives many more clues as to identity and referencing than the old JE list. Charles Matthews (talk) 21:13, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Male / female Christian Hebraists[edit]

Seeing that there was a separate heading for "Female Christian Hebraists", I changed the heading of the first list from simply "List of Christian Hebraists" to "List of male Christian Hebraists" since if there are two lists, they should be accurately labeled.

Is there any good reason for having two separate lists? If there's a consensus or at least no objection, in about a week I'll change to just one list. Thank you. SchreiberBike (talk) 06:42, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to one list and fixed some formatting issues. SchreiberBike (talk) 01:02, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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