Talk:Charles Spencer, 9th Earl Spencer

Cleanup required

This article contains way too much unsourced and unsubstatiated information, especially for an article about a currently living person who probably knows where to find a lawyer. It needs a good references section, and probably the removal of some speculative or POV text. -- Chris j wood 19:49, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

It should be noted that his title should have the definitive article ‘The’.

QB

Completely unreferenced

This is completely unreferenced. I've moved here a number of the more obvious potential libels and inanities:

Spencer's childhood was scarred by the divorce of his parents - his mother had an affair and left his father, an acrimonious divorce ensued, with the custody battle ending in the courts. At Oxford University he gained a reputation as an over-privileged hellraiser and appeared in a non-speaking role in the film adaptation of Another Country. After University, Spencer got media work as a royal correspondent.

Soon after the wedding, it was revealed that Spencer had maintained an affair with the journalist Sally-Ann Lasson.

One of his first actions was to order the removal of all of his step-mother Raine Spencer's effects from the estate. He also refused his sister Diana the use of a cottage on the estate following her divorce from the Prince of Wales, resulting in the two falling out. To avoid press interest in himself and his family, Earl Spencer and his family moved to South Africa.

His claims at the time that press photographers were directly involved in the death of his sister caused a heightened interest in the Earl's affairs, given that the Earl was seeking a divorce from his now estranged wife. Now living in South Africa, Spencer had had an affair with a socialite Chantal Collopy.

The rest of it certainly needs some cites, but is rather less messy.

James F. (talk) 08:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

All of the removed points are certainly true and can be verified in numerous articles and books.

having no clue whatsoever sure helps in removing things one thinks are unsourced. examples: the earl's unhappy childhood is sourced in morton's "diana, her true story" by his sister ("i want my mummy, i want my mummy"). lasson went public about HER affair with spencer when he got married. collopy famously joined the earl's wife in the divorce proceedings, a love letter of spencer's to collopy was read out in court. all of the removed stuff is common knowledge and widely published in british newspapers. --Snottily 11:29, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Royal Family attack

"The eulogy came in for some criticism because it attacked the Royal family rather than focusing on what Diana had achieved during her life."

I added a link at the bottom to what I thought was the charles spencer eulogy for Diana. I don't see any attack on the royal family. Perhaps my link is to a false transcript of the eulogy, or perhaps I missed the royal family attack part, or perhaps whoever wrote that part of the article is full of crap. EvanR 02:17, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I altered the year in which the current Earl Spencers' second marriage ended in a quickie divorce. The article stated 2006 which should've read 2007.

I thought his home in South Africa was in Cape Town, not Johannesburg? That was where he was interviewed from after Diana died.

Meltingpot 15:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Having trouble editing "Categories"

I moved the "External links" so that it follows "Offices held", but still cannot access the "Categories" section to edit it. I want to add categories for Old Etonians and Alumni of Magdelen College, Oxford. FrankEldonDixon 11:00 (GMT+5), 26 January 2009 (UTC)

School

Where did Charles Spencer attend school? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.103.54.82 (talk) 03:05, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't believe Charles Spencer was a member of Bullingdon Club. There are some news articles that suggest he was, but several more that say he wasn't, so I have removed the reference to it. He claims he was courted by the group but did not join. BillieGoatGruffer (talk) 18:55, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

References

Second divorce

The record is incomplete, if it does not mention the 'quickie' divorce obtained by Caroline in March 2007. 81.158.42.208 (talk) 13:56, 28 June 2009 (UTC)86.181.13.129 (talk) 00:33, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

First marriage

In the section First marriage there are something wrong in the following sentence:

At the same time, he also became the 9th Viscount Althorp, 9th Viscount Spencer of Althorp, 9th Baron Spencer of Althorp and the 4th Viscount Althorp.

He can't be both 9th Viscount Althorp and 4th Viscount Althorp. --Jpfagerback (talk) 23:21, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, he can---the title was created twice, once in the peerage of England (Viscount Althorp of Althorp) in 1761, and once in the peerage of the United Kingdom (Viscount Althorp of Great Brington) in 1905. It could have been worse: there's no rule against having the same territorial designation. For instance, the first Duke of Fife was twice a duke, being created Duke of Fife twice, the only differences being the rules concerning the inheritance of the title, and with his first dukedom he was also made a marquess, which was not re-created. --Chuckw-nj (talk) 09:58, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

There has been a significant unexplained anon deletion from this article, which normally I wouldn't be very happy about, but this is a blp, the deleted material did include some sensitive issues, and it may have been unsourced. Any comments? PatGallacher (talk) 14:59, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I see no references to his first wife filing for divorce due to domestic violence. Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.182.184.113 (talk) 20:18, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

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The younger brother of diana, princess of whales and maternal uncle of VERBOSE AND CONFUSING?

Why wouldn't you just say "the younger brother of princess diana"

Any none British person who comes to this page having no idea who this.guy is, is not gonna see "the younger brother of diana, princess of wales" is not going to think, "ah yes... princess diana"

The "maternal uncle of" part after is verbose, redundant and just adds to the confusion..

After the other part of the intro, it should just say "He is the younger brother of Princess Diana.

and the intro should end there. Idk why but this one really annoyed me. 2600:1700:DF50:A1F0:6126:F6C8:C707:7E71 (talk) 02:18, 27 December 2022 (UTC)