Talk:Charles Porion

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Did he die in 1868 or in 1908?[edit]

Copied from WP:TH Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:39, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if I'm in the wrong place by the way, haven't exactly been here long.

There is conflicting information about this, even between language editions on Wikipedia. French and Spanish versions claim the latter date, whereas English claims the former. There is a source on the corresponding English article, but I don't have the language know-how and source evaluation skills to check whatever sources the Spanish and French have for the date and which one is the most authoritative. --85.76.101.85 (talk) 18:40, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Museo del Prado (should be authoritative) says "after 1868".[1] The French article doesn't seem to have any references for his death date. These two books also say after 1868.[2][3] Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:59, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that cleared up the matter significantly. I edited the article accordingly. --85.76.101.85 (talk) 19:10, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence for post 1868: He was still painting in 1876, he received the Legion of Honour in 1884. Christies, which appears to be the source of the current date, seems to be misled. The 1868 date seems linked only to his time at the Salon. I am not sure they are an authoritative source for this information. An equivalent French auction house says 1908[4]. This book attributes it to 1908, and is referring to art created between 1873 and '79[5]. Anyway, would likely need someone with access to one of those books. Koncorde (talk) 19:26, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Musee d'Orsay book is citing an École du Louvre thesis written in 2003 which apparently concluded he died in 1908.[6] If Musee d'Orsay think that's correct, I think we should go with that. It postdates a lot of other references; perhaps new research has been done. I'll edit the article with a note about this. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:39, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't expect this to be resolved so quickly – excellent work, you all. Also, I edited the section title slightly now that we've moved on to the talk page. ;) --85.76.101.85 (talk) 21:41, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]