Talk:Can-Am Spyder

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Why are they made in Valcourt-QC, right in the heart of the Canadian urban corridor? Yet the concept and introduction in the United States was made in the Deep South, far away from the American urban corridor?

Why is it that every hi-tech development in Canada has to be in the urban corridor (Southern Ontario / Southern Quebec) -- a tiny region barely 2% of Canada's land mass -- yet in the United States, hi-tech occurs throughout the country? And is not concentrated into the US urban corridor (Bos-NY-Wash megalopolis)?

Hmm? Why?

--Atikokan (talk) 03:33, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

90% of the population lives within 100 km of the US boarder, when you consider that, it becomes more understandable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.137.245.208 (talk) 17:28, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Advertising tags[edit]

Regarding questions on my talk page about advert tags on this article, first and foremost, Wikipedia's guidelines are the best place to look for these answers. My opinions are only my opinions. The link WP:NOTSOAPBOX is the place to start. It outlines the basic idea that these pages should not be promotional, and it links to relevant supporting guidelines like Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Underlying all of this are the basic concepts of WP:RS and WP:V. Read and follow that stuff and it won't matter what I say.

Some specifics as to why I think parts of this article violate these guidelines are that they don't rely on reliable, independent secondary sources to determine both content and notability. For example, that the Spyder was initiated at BRP Annual Design Forum. It comes only from a BRP press release, and it mentions an event that has zero attention from secondary sources. It fails notability and conforms only to the public relations image that BRP is pushing. It's good to read BRP's press releases first, then you can catch disreputable "news" outlets that simply copy or paraphrase the press releases they were fed. See Wikipedia:Independent#Non-independent_sources.

This article is kind of a pain because advertising and PR material from the company is woven thickly throughout and it will take some work to remove it and re-cite what is notable. I think the goal should be to make the article a reflection of what the reliable secondary sources are saying about the Can-Am Spyder, and in no way a reflection of what BRP wants you to think. There is lots of positive coverage, but it isn't all positive. Of course BRP sources can be cited, but it should be done with care. Mostly neutral data that can't come from anywhere else and isn't likely to be disputed, like bore x stroke figures. Data that could be in dispute, like horsepower, or just opinions, should be framed so it is 100% clear you are quoting manufacturer claims, not endorsing what they claim.

To me it is boring and annoying to read hype about how celebrities like Jay Leno think some product is cool. I'd rather get to the meat of it and read solid information, not fluff and hype. So I would want to focus on the secondary sources that offer the best solid information.

If this article is the only thing you've ever edited on Wikipedia, and the only thing you ever intend to edit, why is that? Do you have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest? If so, you should read that article carefully and follow the guidelines on how to avoid COI edits.--Dbratland (talk) 17:18, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the history section, keeping only the reference to the press release on when it was launched.
Atlesn (talk) 20:06, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

lean?[edit]

It would be helpful if the article explains how the trike handles leaning into turns. Does the rider lean like a motorcycle having the angle between the chassis and front axle narrow, or is the structure between them rigid? Most trikes do not permit the trike body to lean into turns with the rider. JJ Bosch (talk) 14:02, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's really a Three-wheeled car, in that it doesn't lean. The front wheels steer like a car. But you're right, the article should cover this better. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 15:31, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MPG[edit]

It would also be nice if there was something talking about the fuel options and the projected MPG or KPL for this vehicle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CycloneSteve (talk • contribs) 01:14, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Started to try and clean up this page.[edit]

I moved a few things around in the top few sections, removed from citations and need for them from the lead section as suggested on the Wikipedia:Citing sources page. Also tried to bring the "Models" section up to date and provide a little more info in that section, and reorganized to show current models from lowest type to highest. I cannot find a reference to the introduction date of the Can-Am roadster on the Can-Am or BRP websites. I will have to look further to be able to provide citation on this fact.

As always I am new at wiki editing, so forgive my piecemeal approach to fixes but I am limited in the amount of time I can spend in front of a computer for medical reasons so I try to do what I can in good faith and with true intentions to the best of my ability. However YMMV on your opinion and the actuality of my changes trying to adhere to the Wikipedia standard editing guidelines for pages. Thank You.

OldfeelingamI (talk) 08:37, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of Ryker[edit]

This article was originally created for the Spyder, and that is indicated by the title. BRP Can-Am has added the Ryker model, and it has been added to this article without changing the title or making it clear that "Spyder" is the name of only the original model; the Ryker is not a "Spyder Ryker", but a distinct model of the same general type of vehicle. The article should be split into two, or (I believe preferably) updated to a more general article covering all BRP Can-Am on-road models.

brian|bp 21:14, 26 October 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian abp (talk • contribs)

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