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NPOV/HOAX issues[edit]

This environmentally sensitive area has been used as a training area for over 44 years and is an excellent example of the Marine Corps' environmental stewardship.

and

Marines and wildlife may continue to live together in harmony

plus missing reliable sources on those claims are giving this article looking more of an Advertisement.

This article also misses to argue about the impacts on environment and wildlife.

What about the Forces emissions? not only exhausgases (which i agree could be ignored) But continued noise from helicopters, firefights, explosions, etc. Plus, is the cleaning really thorough, as mentioned? Is there an independent environmental contoller that can confirm these claims? On the other hand there are repeated cases of ground contamination (e.g. w/ PCB in the Onna-Village area) Any other possible contamination (e.g. Uranium Ammunition, other common sources (in military equipment) of radiation) How does the facility handle wildfires caused by training and "missions" What about other anvironmental poisons?

Other questiones unanswered:

Why use an extraterritorial place? Are there any possible alternative places on US Territory?

With those questiones answered and the addition of reliable sources this article could become really good. Until then one cannot help but think about this as an Ad by the USMC Public Relations bureau. Above mentioned quotes fuel such thoughts. 89.196.6.252 (talk) 15:07, 30 December 2009 (UTC) a critical reader[reply]

"A Critical reader"

All of your concerns have been addressed, except for the reasoning behind using Okinawa's jungle for the training center as that is self explanitory. The United States does not have any jungles in within the continent, as everyone is aware of. However, some time in the future military operations are going to be moving from Okinawa to Guam. I am unsure as to how much jungle Guam has, but that is possibly a future location for a Jungle Warfare Training Center. Doser108 (talk) 15:45, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doser108, -Just because continental US do not possess a territory of jungle is NOT self-explanatory of why they should be allowed to exploit an extraterritorial jungle. NOT. AT ALL. As for Guam, your statement has proven false. Some other questions asked by 89.196.6.252 are not yet answered, since 2009, although the article has perhaps slightly been improved.--5.249.14.10 (talk) 16:07, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Large Contributor to this Article"

This article was largely contributed from myself in 2009-10 or so due to changes in the structure of the center. Most of the information that is compiled in the article I obtained from various sources and papers around the Camp (ie; text books, brochures, and previous websites) that I cannot recall nor source. Thefore this article needs major revisions and much fact finding must be done to ensure accurate and reliable information is being brought forward. This was early in my Wiki carreer whence the Ad like presentation and also bias since being stationed there at the time.

Not to say the information in this article is outright inccorect, this article does need proper sources and facts. It also needs to portray a more neutral tone. JoeyB2090 (talk) 08:31, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

JoeyB2090,- Agree with you last comment. Your explaining of your connection to the base is also greatly appreciated.--5.249.14.10 (talk) 16:07, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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the page is not a brochure for the promotion of the US Military

Jungle Skills Course

JWTC offers a Jungle Skills Course encompassing basic Marine combat skills in a jungle environment. The course consists of six total days, five of them training days. In addition to basic combat skills in the jungle, the course is designed to enhance the training unit's small unit leadership, tactical mindset, and unit cohesion. Training up to 100 personnel, a few classes taught in the Jungle Skills course are land navigation, patrolling, rope management & rappelling, and jungle booby traps. The Jungle Skills course culminates with the Jungle Endurance Course.

Jungle Leaders

The Jungle Leaders course is designed to develop small unit leaders in all aspects of small-unit combat operations and basic survival skills in the jungle. It combines the previously taught Jungle Survival Course period of instruction with comprehensive basic warfighting skills. To take part in the Jungle Leaders Course, the Jungle Skills Course is a prerequisite. The target of the course is for small unit leaders (team leaders through platoon commanders or equivalent) from any military occupational specialty (MOS). The course consists of six total days consisting of five training days. Training up to 25 personnel, a few classes taught in the Jungle Leaders course are patrol orders, patrolling, jungle casevac (Personnel Extraction), survival skills, defense, and executing patrol bases.

Jungle Endurance Course

The J===Jungle Skills Course===

JWTC offers a Jungle Skills Course encompassing basic Marine combat skills in a jungle environment. The course consists of six total days, five of them training days. In addition to basic combat skills in the jungle, the course is designed to enhance the training unit's small unit leadership, tactical mindset, and unit cohesion. Training up to 100 personnel, a few classes taught in the Jungle Skills course are land navigation, patrolling, rope management & rappelling, and jungle booby traps. The Jungle Skills course culminates with the Jungle Endurance Course.

Jungle Leaders

The Jungle Leaders course is designed to develop small unit leaders in all aspects of small-unit combat operations and basic survival skills in the jungle. It combines the previously taught Jungle Survival Course period of instruction with comprehensive basic warfighting skills. To take part in the Jungle Leaders Course, the Jungle Skills Course is a prerequisite. The target of the course is for small unit leaders (team leaders through platoon commanders or equivalent) from any military occupational specialty (MOS). The course consists of six total days consisting of five training days. Training up to 25 personnel, a few classes taught in the Jungle Leaders course are patrol orders, patrolling, jungle casevac (Personnel Extraction), survival skills, defense, and executing patrol bases.

Jungle Endurance Course

The Jungle Endurance Course is the culminating point of the Jungle Skills Course. Classes taught through the five-day Jungle Skills Course are utilized throughout the E-Course. In 12–18-man teams, students traverse 3.8 miles (6.1 km) of dense jungle and rugged terrain. Using teamwork and perseverance, teams compete with one another across 31 obstacles spread along the course. Teams face hasty rappels, rope obstacles, water obstacles and a stretcher carry to complete the entire course.

Independent operations

JWTC offers areas for units to operate independently with prior coordination. Utilizing the areas, units have done Realistic Urban Terrain Exercises (RUTEX), Raids, Non-Combatant Evacuation Operations (NEO), Reconnaissance and Surveillance, Land Navigation, Fast Rope, SPIE Rigging, Communication Exercises, and Water Insertion.ungle Endurance Course is the culminating point of the Jungle Skills Course. Classes taught through the five-day Jungle Skills Course are utilized throughout the E-Course. In 12–18-man teams, students traverse 3.8 miles (6.1 km) of dense jungle and rugged terrain. Using teamwork and perseverance, teams compete with one another across 31 obstacles spread along the course. Teams face hasty rappels, rope obstacles, water obstacles and a stretcher carry to complete the entire course.

Independent operations

JWTC offers areas for units to operate independently with prior coordination. Utilizing the areas, units have done Realistic Urban Terrain Exercises (RUTEX), Raids, Non-Combatant Evacuation Operations (NEO), Reconnaissance and Surveillance, Land Navigation, Fast Rope, SPIE Rigging, Communication Exercises, and Water Insertion.

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