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Statistics are not realistic[edit]

This page claims that around 5,000 people have died from COVID-19 in China. This is a death rate that is about .1% the death rate in the United States when Wuhan is the epicenter of the pandemic and is the central transportation hub of China. I know that these are the statistics that the US media reports but people have to use common sense here and question what the actual death rate is. A discussion section should be added to the page. 50.230.201.134 (talk) 17:53, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You might be interested to read about the Chinese government response to COVID-19, which has been very different from the US government response. As a result, transmission has been much less widespread in China than in the US. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 20:26, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is not physically possible for transmission to be lower in China than it is in the United States, let alone 1,000 times lower. China is more densely populated than the United States and Wuhan is the central transportation hub of China. Furthermore, Wuhan is the epicenter of the pandemic and there were already infections in every single county in the United States in April 2020, which was before newer variants even existed. 50.230.201.134 (talk) 00:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

China's zero-COVID policy limited death significantly. As you now see, with the policy lifted in China, cases and deaths are many multiples higher. Footballfan3570 (talk) 22:07, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lies 2601:18C:CE7F:4100:2C9E:F2B7:8E87:D52E (talk) 14:02, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:COVID-19 lab leak theory#Request_for_comment[edit]

An editor has started an RfC about whether the announcement by the FBI and the U.S. Department of Energy that they support the COVID-19 lab leak theory should be in the lede of the COVID-19 lab leak theory article. Interested editors are invited to contribute. TarnishedPath^talk 23:45, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suspected Cases column[edit]

The Suspected Cases column says "January 2022" instead of "January 2023", the month the citedsource was published. This was provably a typo. Baccherini (talk) 03:20, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actual Death Toll[edit]

Why is the figure of 122,170 the only figure given? Several papers have been published in the past year or two which provide a much higher estimated:

Using time-series data on all-cause mortality among senior members of CAE, we estimated that nearly a million excess deaths occurred in December 2022–January 2023 among urban dwellers in Mainland China. The observed death count among senior CAE members was not compatible with the low death rate based on official statistics. As has occurred elsewhere in the world, the true impact of COVID-19 on mortality in Mainland China was much higher than what was officially documented. [1]

We estimate that the ensuing wave of SARS-CoV-2 infections caused 1.41 million deaths in China during December 2022–February 2023, substantially higher than that reported through official channels.[2]

Cremation figures released and then quickly withdrawn by authorities in China’s Zhejiang province appear to confirm widespread doubts about the government’s official pandemic death count, and lend support to international forecasts which predicted roughly 1.5 million deaths from covid in the weeks after China abandoned its zero covid policy last December.[3]

For example, a calibrated model27 based on the 2022 Omicron outbreak in Shanghai to project COVID-19 outcome in the absence of non-pharmaceutical interventions suggests about 1.6 million deaths (1.10 deaths per 1000 inhabitants) over a 6-month period.[4]

98.34.76.212 (talk) 03:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]