Talk:Border–Gavaskar Trophy

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What exactly is needed in the sections?[edit]

Hi, I am interested in helping out on this article, having expanded it in the past. Could someone give a general direction in which to move for the new headings? What is "The Naming"? What needs to be added under "The Trophy"? Is it a description+photo or something like that? Blowtorch 12:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't done anything but that statement that saying this trophy is more important than the ashes REALLY needs a source, if this page is going to improve. So many people will challenge being English myself I seriously challenge it! Also the descriptions of each individual series are very long. This content would be better placed on the articles directly related to that particular series. The main page should just have summary of match e.g Tendulkar got a century in the test, McGrath got good bowling figures or other notable events such as Ponting going out for a duck. If you want to do some work to improve the page expand the match venues and record articles first.Monsta666 23:56, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Border-Gavaskar trophy isn't even close to being as important as the Ashes. The rivalry is only one-way, in that India wanted to beat the best team in the world, which for a time was Australia. Now it's no longer us, they'll find a new rival. Likewise, Australia only really cares about the trophy because India has had great players in its side, respected on both sides of the divide, players like Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag. As those guys retire and drop off the scene, I doubt very much the new breed will inspire anywhere near the same sort of respect. Undoubtedly the players will still talk it up - while the fat IPL contracts are on offer, Australian players will be falling over themselves to praise India! But the average Australian cricket support would happily trade 10 border-gavaskars in India for one ashes win in England. 59.167.215.137 (talk) 05:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the "Naming" section is redundant, as the fact the contest is named after the two former captains is mentioned in the Introduction, and that is the only significant fact about the naming of the contest? Vns22 (talk) 13:02, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone add one of those boxes(what tours, when...whatever it is called) for the Border-Gavaskar trophy? I lack the expertise unfortunately.Chimpionspeak (talk) 11:40, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Narrative[edit]

I think the narrative of the article needs substantial improvement. There are grammatical and spelling errors spewed all over the article. Also, its tone is not encyclopædic and is more like a story.

There are major problems with the quality of the article; it is poorly structured and written, lacks coherence, its tone is far too informal - it's essentially not up to the standard of an encyclopedia article. I've tagged it because of these concerns. Wcp07 (talk) 05:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Venues ?[edit]

Why are there 5 venues in Australia, but 7 in India? Tabletop (talk) 12:02, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because India has more official Test venues. Although Australia is geographically larger, India has (many) more major population centres, and thus official test venues to go along with them. I believe (talking from memory here) Australia actually has 8 official test venues (including Hobart, Cairns and Darwin), but if they aren't used for an Indian tour then they won't appear in this article. Manning (talk) 02:22, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hyphen[edit]

Shouldn't the hyphen be used instead of the en dash in the title? --Jairodz (talk) 03:33, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Series cleanup suggestions[edit]

The coverage of each series should be standardised and cleaned up. There is too much extraneous detail at the moment, this article isn't about every series in depth.

I'd like to suggest each series subheading have the following (in this order):

  • a link to the relevant series article
  • a summary of the final series result and 'man-of the series'
  • a brief 1-2 sentence overview of each test, including the venue, the result and (at most) one or two details.

If anyone disagrees then let me know, otherwise I'll start this cleanup in a day or two. Manning (talk) 02:27, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think the above-suggested cleanup needs to be done. Other editors should contribute. Pm thanvir (talk) 18:17, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Coming back to these suggestions after 8 years, I note that things have only been getting worse. There is a proliferation of extraneous detail (sometimes associated with emotive triumphalism in unencyclopedic language), e.g.,
India in the due course of this innings India lost another seamer in Mohammed Shami to a forearm fracture, courtesy a blow by a Pat Cummins' short ball.

Touted as 'Gabbatoir' or 'Fortress Gabba' in the cricketing circuit due to Australia's impeccable unbeaten Test record at this ground in over 31 matches played over the last 32 years, India was further pushed against the wall with even more player injuries; so many so that Indian team was able to retain only two of the eleven players who had contested the first Test in Adelaide. [No citations proffered]

We need to return to the formerly established description standard of 2-3 lines per Test and leave all the commentary to writers of reliable citations. Bjenks (talk) 04:31, 31 January 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Border–Gavaskar Trophy/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

I dispute the article's B-class status as there are major problems with its tone and structure. These need to be corrected before it can be listed as a B-class article.

Last edited at 02:07, 9 May 2011 (UTC). Substituted at 10:04, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Spelling consistency[edit]

We need to decide whether Test/test has an initial cap for consistency within this article. Personally I can see no valid reason for the cap in prose contexts, but others may prefer it. None the less, we really need to be consistent. Bjenks (talk) 07:52, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No takers, eh? Well, here goes. I'll settle for cap T, to be consistent with related WP articles, e.g., Test cricket and to be compatible with such other controversial sporting terms as Thoroughbred. Bjenks (talk) 10:53, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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