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A fact from Benjamin F. Gue appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 December 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Benjamin F. Gue, who co-founded Iowa State University, allowed women to become students there despite much opposition?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Benjamin F. Gue.

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Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 17:49, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Benjamin F. Gue, who helped charter and fund Iowa State University, advocated for women to become students there despite much opposition? Source: https://www.legis.iowa.gov/legislators/legislator?ga=7&personID=5352
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5x expanded by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:20, 27 November 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Hi SL93 review follows: article more than 5x expanded from 26 November; article is well written and cited inline to two reliable sources; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing from the sources; hook is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to sources cited (I did think about "helped ... fund", the hook led me to think he'd paid for it out of his own pocket but can't think of a succinct wording and probably not the place for nuance); a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 12:35, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @SL93 and Dumelow: could we also quickly add that he secured their admission, not just advocated for it? That seems like a good detail to throw in. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:31, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - theleekycauldron ... that Benjamin F. Gue, who helped charter and fund Iowa State University, advocated for and allowed women to become students there despite much opposition? SL93 (talk) 22:33, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - tick as cited and interesting :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:36, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      - @SL93 and Theleekycauldron: The hook seems interesting, but the construction "charter and fund ... advocated for and allowed" is kind of awkward, with the repetition of "and". This needs some better phrasing. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:38, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        RoySmith Maybe I could focus on only one thing. ALT1a ... that Benjamin F. Gue, who chartered Iowa State University, allowed women to become students there despite much opposition? SL93 (talk) 16:46, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        Does "charter" have a specific legal meaning? The source says, "He was one of the authors of a bill to found a state agricultural college". I'm not sure if that's exactly what "charter" implies. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:02, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        RoySmith ALT1b ... that Benjamin F. Gue, who co-founded Iowa State University, allowed women to become students there despite much opposition?
        
        RoySmith SL93 (talk) 17:19, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not hugely excited by any of these, but I'll give a tick to ALT1b. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:24, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I didn't think hooks had to necessarily be exciting. SL93 (talk) 17:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- RoySmith Two editors found it interesting already, but I didn't think exciting was ever a requirement so I'm hoping your comment doesn't further delay promotion. SL93 (talk) 17:27, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - @SL93: I think Roy was just doing a bit of hyperbole there :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 23:42, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Would a year work? ... that Benjamin F. Gue, who co-founded Iowa State University in 1858, allowed women to become students there despite much opposition?